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From: RPGGamer0
| Posted: 9/13/2005 1:28:21 AM | Message Detail
| #251
Samus ftw.
~RPGGamer~
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/13/2005 1:51:04 AM | Message Detail
| #252
I think my writeup is the funniest, personally >_>;;
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From: Conceited Bastard
| Posted: 9/13/2005 2:01:45 AM | Message Detail
| #253
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From: shadow8021
| Posted: 9/13/2005 4:29:17 PM | Message Detail
| #254
Go Mario!
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SC2K5 Score: 85/96
Today's Pick: Mario
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SC2K5 Score: 85/96
Today's Pick: Mario
From: Giggsalot
| Posted: 9/13/2005 5:09:12 PM | Message Detail
| #255
wow samus got sff'd to the ground...
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This Party's Gettin' Crazy . . . Let's Rock!
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This Party's Gettin' Crazy . . . Let's Rock!
From: seeraamaazu
| Posted: 9/13/2005 6:21:15 PM | Message Detail
| #256
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DEFENCE, DEFENCE
"Alas, history is nothing but a lie agreed upon" - Napoleon Bonaparte.
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DEFENCE, DEFENCE
"Alas, history is nothing but a lie agreed upon" - Napoleon Bonaparte.
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:25:20 PM | Message Detail
| #257
Mega Man.......................68.08% 63395
Yoshi..............................31.92% 29719
TOTAL VOTES............................93114
54.38% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Ouch...ouch. Mega Man beats Yoshi by more than he beat Leon by. Can you say, SFF? Looks like there's some kind of strange relationship between Mega Man and old-school Nintendo characters. Stll, Yoshi didn't deserve that...
Today, Mario is...blowing out Samus, as hard as it is to say. 60-40? Ouch. This stinks for me, but hopefully this shows that Mario has as much a chance as Samus had to take down Sephiroth.
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Soul - 10
Tnote - 10
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Outback had the highest pick, because we all majorly undershot.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Mario vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (84/96)
Yoshi..............................31.92% 29719
TOTAL VOTES............................93114
54.38% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Ouch...ouch. Mega Man beats Yoshi by more than he beat Leon by. Can you say, SFF? Looks like there's some kind of strange relationship between Mega Man and old-school Nintendo characters. Stll, Yoshi didn't deserve that...
Today, Mario is...blowing out Samus, as hard as it is to say. 60-40? Ouch. This stinks for me, but hopefully this shows that Mario has as much a chance as Samus had to take down Sephiroth.
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Soul - 10
Tnote - 10
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Outback had the highest pick, because we all majorly undershot.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Mario vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (84/96)
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:27:57 PM | Message Detail
| #258
Gear/Dream Division Round 4 - Match 58 – (1)Solid Snake vs. (3)Bowser
Snake - Equipped with **** camouflage.
Round 1 – vs. Manny (Snake: 84.09% - Manny: 15.91%)
Round 2 – vs. Zelda (Snake: 54.41% - Zelda: 45.59%)
Round 3 – vs. Sora (Snake: 65.26% - Sora: 34.74%)
Looks like Alucard’s Plan was to make himself, along with his opponent look horrible again.
Bowser - A fire breathing turtle who throws hammers. Makes sense to me!
Round 1 – vs. Chun-Li (Bowser: 65.90% - Chun-Li: 34.10%)
Round 2 – vs. Ryu (Bowser: 58.98% - Ryu: 41.02%)
Round 3 – vs. Kirby (Bowser: 52.12% - Kirby: 47.88%)
Kirby really out-did himself here. 48% on Bowser!
>.> <.< *DUN DUN DUN*
It’s time for an episode of….CONSPIRIACY THEATHER
Alright readers, I’m back, and ready to share some more conspiracies with you guys. Oh, I’ve got a good one today. It deals with Snake, Bowser, and their match against each other. Mmm, I can already smell the theories brewing.
Alright, look at this. In most of Snake’s matches, look at the picture he has received. First, there were Metal Gear Acid pictures in his first two matches. One was against Manny, and the other Zelda. CJayC has written a FAQ for Grim Fandango, and we all know of Ceej’s love for all things Nintendo. But here’s the interesting thing, when he faces Sora, and gets his best pic so far, he blows Sora out of the water. Suspicious? You know it. Now he faces Bowser and gets another horrible sprite pic, with “I feel asleep.”, a mistake in Metal Gear, while Bowser not only gets a clear looking picture of him, but also…the Home Field Advantage Factor, now called HFAF. We remember what Frog did on Snake’s crappy sprite, so what will Bowser do? Lord knows, and I know. I see through your tricks and lies Ceej. I’m on to you man!
And that, concludes today’s episode of….CONSPIRACY THEATER
Where does your tax money go? I’ll tell you. It goes towards a secret government project. They’re trying to really freeze hell over.
*DUN DUN DUN*
Now, you saw a little something up there called the HFAF, or Home Field Advantage Factor. This has really come into play over the past few days, and made a major impact on the Contest. After showing some people the Snake/Bowser pic, we asked for their opinions on what they thought of the HFAF. Here are some of their responses.
Random Guy: Hey!! I remember Bowser in the Castle! I’d so totally vote for that!
Random Girl: Eww, what’s that smudge on the pic messing up Bowser’s Castle? Bowser all the way, baby!
Jesus: It’s Bowser LOL!
Alright, Snake vs. Bowser. Up until Round 3, this match was looking pretty good on paper. It’s been debated since before the Contest even started. People were seriously doubting Snake’s strength after his performance in 2004, and Bowser looked HOT after SpC2K5. Many people thought Bowser would beat Snake, and that the Noble Nine would be ended this Contest. Well, we stepped into the fire, and some people got burned.
Geek: HAHA! I feel asleep! I remember that, good times. But dude, Bowser’s home field! He gets my vote.
Billy the Average Bracketmaker: Bowser will own that n00b, 65-35!
Snake started out looking a little weak against Manny. I mean, Shake single-handedly got him in the Contest, and Snake only got 84% on him. Snake then faced Zelda in Round 2, and some thought the Twilight Princess had it, but Snake surprised and beat her 55-45. Snake then went on to destroy Sora, and get 65% on him, which is close to what Samus got last year. Bowser had a much tougher path, but still brezzed through it. He easily beat Chun-Li, stomped Ryu to the ground and got a whopping 59% on him, which is more than Sonic, Snake and Samus got on him. Then he lost to Kirby in a close match.
Snake - Equipped with **** camouflage.
Round 1 – vs. Manny (Snake: 84.09% - Manny: 15.91%)
Round 2 – vs. Zelda (Snake: 54.41% - Zelda: 45.59%)
Round 3 – vs. Sora (Snake: 65.26% - Sora: 34.74%)
Looks like Alucard’s Plan was to make himself, along with his opponent look horrible again.
Bowser - A fire breathing turtle who throws hammers. Makes sense to me!
Round 1 – vs. Chun-Li (Bowser: 65.90% - Chun-Li: 34.10%)
Round 2 – vs. Ryu (Bowser: 58.98% - Ryu: 41.02%)
Round 3 – vs. Kirby (Bowser: 52.12% - Kirby: 47.88%)
Kirby really out-did himself here. 48% on Bowser!
>.> <.< *DUN DUN DUN*
It’s time for an episode of….CONSPIRIACY THEATHER
Alright readers, I’m back, and ready to share some more conspiracies with you guys. Oh, I’ve got a good one today. It deals with Snake, Bowser, and their match against each other. Mmm, I can already smell the theories brewing.
Alright, look at this. In most of Snake’s matches, look at the picture he has received. First, there were Metal Gear Acid pictures in his first two matches. One was against Manny, and the other Zelda. CJayC has written a FAQ for Grim Fandango, and we all know of Ceej’s love for all things Nintendo. But here’s the interesting thing, when he faces Sora, and gets his best pic so far, he blows Sora out of the water. Suspicious? You know it. Now he faces Bowser and gets another horrible sprite pic, with “I feel asleep.”, a mistake in Metal Gear, while Bowser not only gets a clear looking picture of him, but also…the Home Field Advantage Factor, now called HFAF. We remember what Frog did on Snake’s crappy sprite, so what will Bowser do? Lord knows, and I know. I see through your tricks and lies Ceej. I’m on to you man!
And that, concludes today’s episode of….CONSPIRACY THEATER
Where does your tax money go? I’ll tell you. It goes towards a secret government project. They’re trying to really freeze hell over.
*DUN DUN DUN*
Now, you saw a little something up there called the HFAF, or Home Field Advantage Factor. This has really come into play over the past few days, and made a major impact on the Contest. After showing some people the Snake/Bowser pic, we asked for their opinions on what they thought of the HFAF. Here are some of their responses.
Random Guy: Hey!! I remember Bowser in the Castle! I’d so totally vote for that!
Random Girl: Eww, what’s that smudge on the pic messing up Bowser’s Castle? Bowser all the way, baby!
Jesus: It’s Bowser LOL!
Alright, Snake vs. Bowser. Up until Round 3, this match was looking pretty good on paper. It’s been debated since before the Contest even started. People were seriously doubting Snake’s strength after his performance in 2004, and Bowser looked HOT after SpC2K5. Many people thought Bowser would beat Snake, and that the Noble Nine would be ended this Contest. Well, we stepped into the fire, and some people got burned.
Geek: HAHA! I feel asleep! I remember that, good times. But dude, Bowser’s home field! He gets my vote.
Billy the Average Bracketmaker: Bowser will own that n00b, 65-35!
Snake started out looking a little weak against Manny. I mean, Shake single-handedly got him in the Contest, and Snake only got 84% on him. Snake then faced Zelda in Round 2, and some thought the Twilight Princess had it, but Snake surprised and beat her 55-45. Snake then went on to destroy Sora, and get 65% on him, which is close to what Samus got last year. Bowser had a much tougher path, but still brezzed through it. He easily beat Chun-Li, stomped Ryu to the ground and got a whopping 59% on him, which is more than Sonic, Snake and Samus got on him. Then he lost to Kirby in a close match.
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:28:18 PM | Message Detail
| #259
Clinkeroth: We love Mario Bros., and just love to face Bowser in his castle, Bowser FTW!
George Romero: I single-handedly brought Snake this far in the Contest, but now that Bowser’s pic is his home field, I’m “helping” him.
CJayC: I made the pic, of course I’m voting for Bowser!
Well, Kirby > Snake or Zelda > Bowser. We could be looking at one of those results after this match. Bowser crushed Ryu in Round 2, but it’s not hard to believe he and KOS-MOS were overrated in 2004, since they both appeared to have fallen. His performance against Kirby was also pretty lackluster. Snake on the other hand had shown that he is in no position to lose his Noble Nine status yet. 55% on Zelda, and 65% on Sora is no joke. Snake means business here. Bowser should make it good, but I’m thinking Snake has got this in the box. (Get it! Get it!!! I knew you would)
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Snake will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Snake: 52% - Bowser: 48%
Soul’s Analysis
SUPA STEALTHY ROUND 3 RESULTS!
Snake snuck by Sora: 65.26% - 34.74%
Bowsa burned Kirby: 52.12% - 47.88%
Let's go Bowsa! Let's go!
Yes, if you can't tell by now, I love the Nintendo characters in this contest. I'm a big fan of Bowser, and I'm hoping he can pull off a great upset. Of course, that's not looking good after round 2. But, there is still hope. Sprite round = A bad picture for Snake = BOWSA HAS THE ADVANTAGE!
Anyways, like I said before, Snake just absolutely shocked the hell out of us in round 3 against Sora. Call it whatever you want, Snake just absolutely pwned Sora badly. I don't know if this is a Sora decline or a huge boost for Snake, but this is not looking good for the King. King Koopa, that is (pfft, the only King worth talking about anyway). Add in the fact that Bowser failed to live up to expectations against Kirby as well.
When all hope was lost for Bowser, the picture came up. Bowser looked mediocre, but Snake looked like absolute garbage! Bowser also has the background from his game on his side, while Snake has a joke that barely anyone knows of (I have no clue why that's there, really). If the picture makes a big factor for the match, then Bowser will win this one.
Speaking of which, it's hard to believe that Bowser will just roll over and die. You all are witnessing what Mario is doing to Samus. You've all witnessed how close Luigi got against Tifa. Hell, if Yoshi faced Sonic instead of Mega Man, I'm sure he would have surprised almost everyone as well. Of course, the little dino got screwed over by facing MM, and consequentially, was defeated a lot worse then what he should have been defeated, for some reason... More on that in the Sonic/Mega Man match though.
As we come down to it, this is basically the last chance for a character to upset a Noble Nine member. Snake was the weakest NN member last year, and I believe that he is still the weakest. Sure, he may have blown-out Sora, but he got an absolutely amazing picture during that match. I believe that Snake works kind of like Kefka. He'll over-perform with a good picture, but under-perform with a crappy picture. Although I think Snake will take this one, by now means is this match a bye for him. I believe it's going to go wire-to-wire, with Snake eventually winning.
My prediction: Snake wins with 50.99% of the vote.
Outback’s Analysis
As weak as Snake looked last year against Frog with Solid ****, he still won. However, against a stronger opponent, will it go similarly? I think it will be very similar, with only about a 2% difference. Thanks partly to the Nintendo boost and partly to the pic, Bowser ekes out a victory.
Bowser with 50.15%
George Romero: I single-handedly brought Snake this far in the Contest, but now that Bowser’s pic is his home field, I’m “helping” him.
CJayC: I made the pic, of course I’m voting for Bowser!
Well, Kirby > Snake or Zelda > Bowser. We could be looking at one of those results after this match. Bowser crushed Ryu in Round 2, but it’s not hard to believe he and KOS-MOS were overrated in 2004, since they both appeared to have fallen. His performance against Kirby was also pretty lackluster. Snake on the other hand had shown that he is in no position to lose his Noble Nine status yet. 55% on Zelda, and 65% on Sora is no joke. Snake means business here. Bowser should make it good, but I’m thinking Snake has got this in the box. (Get it! Get it!!! I knew you would)
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Snake will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Snake: 52% - Bowser: 48%
Soul’s Analysis
SUPA STEALTHY ROUND 3 RESULTS!
Snake snuck by Sora: 65.26% - 34.74%
Bowsa burned Kirby: 52.12% - 47.88%
Let's go Bowsa! Let's go!
Yes, if you can't tell by now, I love the Nintendo characters in this contest. I'm a big fan of Bowser, and I'm hoping he can pull off a great upset. Of course, that's not looking good after round 2. But, there is still hope. Sprite round = A bad picture for Snake = BOWSA HAS THE ADVANTAGE!
Anyways, like I said before, Snake just absolutely shocked the hell out of us in round 3 against Sora. Call it whatever you want, Snake just absolutely pwned Sora badly. I don't know if this is a Sora decline or a huge boost for Snake, but this is not looking good for the King. King Koopa, that is (pfft, the only King worth talking about anyway). Add in the fact that Bowser failed to live up to expectations against Kirby as well.
When all hope was lost for Bowser, the picture came up. Bowser looked mediocre, but Snake looked like absolute garbage! Bowser also has the background from his game on his side, while Snake has a joke that barely anyone knows of (I have no clue why that's there, really). If the picture makes a big factor for the match, then Bowser will win this one.
Speaking of which, it's hard to believe that Bowser will just roll over and die. You all are witnessing what Mario is doing to Samus. You've all witnessed how close Luigi got against Tifa. Hell, if Yoshi faced Sonic instead of Mega Man, I'm sure he would have surprised almost everyone as well. Of course, the little dino got screwed over by facing MM, and consequentially, was defeated a lot worse then what he should have been defeated, for some reason... More on that in the Sonic/Mega Man match though.
As we come down to it, this is basically the last chance for a character to upset a Noble Nine member. Snake was the weakest NN member last year, and I believe that he is still the weakest. Sure, he may have blown-out Sora, but he got an absolutely amazing picture during that match. I believe that Snake works kind of like Kefka. He'll over-perform with a good picture, but under-perform with a crappy picture. Although I think Snake will take this one, by now means is this match a bye for him. I believe it's going to go wire-to-wire, with Snake eventually winning.
My prediction: Snake wins with 50.99% of the vote.
Outback’s Analysis
As weak as Snake looked last year against Frog with Solid ****, he still won. However, against a stronger opponent, will it go similarly? I think it will be very similar, with only about a 2% difference. Thanks partly to the Nintendo boost and partly to the pic, Bowser ekes out a victory.
Bowser with 50.15%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:29:13 PM | Message Detail
| #260
Ulti’s Analysis
Until Bowser/Kirby and Snake/Sora, it truly looked like Bowser was going to kick Snake's ass. But after Snake's impressive beating of Sora, I'd call this match a tossup.
Thus, in my laziness, I came up with a mathematically perfect formula to determine who wins this match: [(N - 3)^coin flip] / Snake's Sprite.
It says Bowser wins with 53.67% >_>
Prediction: Bowser with 53.67%
Inviso’s Analysis
Well, the elite eight are as most sane people expected, with every single one of the noble nine in the contest making it this far. That only accounts for six spots though. The other two are filled by a contest newbie, the only undefeated character in Gamefaqs history at this point, and Bowser, who makes the elite 8 for his first time ever. Snake thus far has been doing surprisingly well. Round one, he blew out a cult fodder character that made it based purely on Shake’s support. Round two, he had a decently close match with Zelda, while she was coming off not only the Nintendo boost, but also the Twilight Princess hype. And in round 3, with perhaps the most awesome picture since Tetris vs. Pong, Snake blew out Sora and made him look like a complete and total *****. Perhaps Snake has truly increased thanks to MGS3; perhaps he’s just getting his second wind in the contests. Only time will tell.
Bowser on the other hand, had what was considered to be one of the most difficult brackets to predict before the contest started. Tidus, Kirby, Ryu, and to a lesser extent, Rikku and Chun Li, were expected to have damn good chances at winning this division. But of course, Kirby performed poorly against an FF character that no one cares about, Tidus sucked it up against a cult character, and Ryu looked extremely weak against Rikku. Bowser started off strong, almost doubling Chun Li, who many consider to be the second most powerful Street Fighter character. He then went on to nearly break 60% on Ryu, who is the STRONGEST Street Fighter character. And after that, he faced Kirby, a fellow Nintendo character who held his own, but inevitably fell before the Koopa King.
After seeing Bowser and Snake’s third round matches, I’m convinced about what the outcome will be. Bowser performed poorly in a match where he should’ve been able to gain at least SOME SFF. Snake blew out a Square character. Konami finally gets a character to the final 4. If only it could be James. *sigh*
My Bracket: Solid Snake
My Vote: Solid Snake
My Prediction: Solid Snake with 52.50%
Tnote’s Analysis
Well, Snake could not avoid the sprite round. Fortunately, he did not get Solid ****. Unfortunately, Bowser has the home-field (despite being the lower seed), and his kickass sprite. Now, I still doubt Bowser can win this, but if he does, you will be hearing about how it is the picture. And why will you be hearing that? Because it will be because of the picture. The Nintendo boost makes this match closer, but in my mind, avoiding Solid **** means Snake has a date with Mario in the Final Four. Which is what everyone wants anyways, because who wants to see Bowser get pimpslapped by Mario again?
Pick: Snake with 52.83%
Special Note: If Snake somehow beats Bowser worse than he beat Zelda, I may actually just quit trying to predict how matches go, because to me, it is more likely Vincent beats Crono than it is Zelda performs better on Snake than Bowser.
Until Bowser/Kirby and Snake/Sora, it truly looked like Bowser was going to kick Snake's ass. But after Snake's impressive beating of Sora, I'd call this match a tossup.
Thus, in my laziness, I came up with a mathematically perfect formula to determine who wins this match: [(N - 3)^coin flip] / Snake's Sprite.
It says Bowser wins with 53.67% >_>
Prediction: Bowser with 53.67%
Inviso’s Analysis
Well, the elite eight are as most sane people expected, with every single one of the noble nine in the contest making it this far. That only accounts for six spots though. The other two are filled by a contest newbie, the only undefeated character in Gamefaqs history at this point, and Bowser, who makes the elite 8 for his first time ever. Snake thus far has been doing surprisingly well. Round one, he blew out a cult fodder character that made it based purely on Shake’s support. Round two, he had a decently close match with Zelda, while she was coming off not only the Nintendo boost, but also the Twilight Princess hype. And in round 3, with perhaps the most awesome picture since Tetris vs. Pong, Snake blew out Sora and made him look like a complete and total *****. Perhaps Snake has truly increased thanks to MGS3; perhaps he’s just getting his second wind in the contests. Only time will tell.
Bowser on the other hand, had what was considered to be one of the most difficult brackets to predict before the contest started. Tidus, Kirby, Ryu, and to a lesser extent, Rikku and Chun Li, were expected to have damn good chances at winning this division. But of course, Kirby performed poorly against an FF character that no one cares about, Tidus sucked it up against a cult character, and Ryu looked extremely weak against Rikku. Bowser started off strong, almost doubling Chun Li, who many consider to be the second most powerful Street Fighter character. He then went on to nearly break 60% on Ryu, who is the STRONGEST Street Fighter character. And after that, he faced Kirby, a fellow Nintendo character who held his own, but inevitably fell before the Koopa King.
After seeing Bowser and Snake’s third round matches, I’m convinced about what the outcome will be. Bowser performed poorly in a match where he should’ve been able to gain at least SOME SFF. Snake blew out a Square character. Konami finally gets a character to the final 4. If only it could be James. *sigh*
My Bracket: Solid Snake
My Vote: Solid Snake
My Prediction: Solid Snake with 52.50%
Tnote’s Analysis
Well, Snake could not avoid the sprite round. Fortunately, he did not get Solid ****. Unfortunately, Bowser has the home-field (despite being the lower seed), and his kickass sprite. Now, I still doubt Bowser can win this, but if he does, you will be hearing about how it is the picture. And why will you be hearing that? Because it will be because of the picture. The Nintendo boost makes this match closer, but in my mind, avoiding Solid **** means Snake has a date with Mario in the Final Four. Which is what everyone wants anyways, because who wants to see Bowser get pimpslapped by Mario again?
Pick: Snake with 52.83%
Special Note: If Snake somehow beats Bowser worse than he beat Zelda, I may actually just quit trying to predict how matches go, because to me, it is more likely Vincent beats Crono than it is Zelda performs better on Snake than Bowser.
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:29:42 PM | Message Detail
| #261
Vlado’s Analysis
Some think that Bowser can achieve the upset and become the one to break the Noble Nine myth. Well, after Snake's convincing win over Zelda, I don't think that's possible. Not to mention the following ass kicking that Snake gave Sora. Sure, the picture favoured him a good deal, unlike this one, but the result was just way bigger than I expected. While we're on the subject of that picture, I must say that was the best picture we've ever seen in a contest match. Again, much unlike this one. Either way, Snake proved his worth. People expected him to make an early exit against Zelda, but now it seems he'll make his way to a match with Mario, which, of course, will be an inevitable loss for him. Final Four would be an accomplishment suitable for Snake. If it were up to me, he'd even make the final match of the regular tournament.
Bowser won an incredibly easy division, where his only potential competition, in Tidus, was obliterated by Kirby before they even met. Bowser then beat Kirby in a close match, but without dropping the lead or giving Kirby a chance to come back for a single second. Basically, Bowser has only been in incredibly clear matches for the whole year. In the villain contest, he beat some fodder, then got owned by Sephiroth, and here, he beat some unimpressive opponents, too, and will now lose to Snake. Simply, Snake is better recognized, and is a hero. Being a villain rarely helps in these contests, and we saw how Samus beat Ganondorf. As long as the two opponents' respective games are both popular enough, the hero will always defeat the villain. There's one exception to that rule, but that exception is in its own bracket now.
Anyway, why would more people support Bowser against Snake than they would Zelda? Both are Nintendo, both are in SSBM, sure, Bowser has more of the "old school" factor, but does it matter all that much? In any case, Zelda is a sexy elf girl, while Bowser is an ugly oversized spiked turtle. The Legend of Zelda series is also considerably more popular than the Super Mario Brothers series here. Despite everything, I have a theory that girls simply don't get as much support here as they should (unless they look like robots), so I expect Bowser to do just a little better than Zelda. Not to mention that the pic mostly favours him, despite the nice approach of using an old school Metal Gear quote in the background.
Predicted percentage: Solid Snake with 53.17%.
Some think that Bowser can achieve the upset and become the one to break the Noble Nine myth. Well, after Snake's convincing win over Zelda, I don't think that's possible. Not to mention the following ass kicking that Snake gave Sora. Sure, the picture favoured him a good deal, unlike this one, but the result was just way bigger than I expected. While we're on the subject of that picture, I must say that was the best picture we've ever seen in a contest match. Again, much unlike this one. Either way, Snake proved his worth. People expected him to make an early exit against Zelda, but now it seems he'll make his way to a match with Mario, which, of course, will be an inevitable loss for him. Final Four would be an accomplishment suitable for Snake. If it were up to me, he'd even make the final match of the regular tournament.
Bowser won an incredibly easy division, where his only potential competition, in Tidus, was obliterated by Kirby before they even met. Bowser then beat Kirby in a close match, but without dropping the lead or giving Kirby a chance to come back for a single second. Basically, Bowser has only been in incredibly clear matches for the whole year. In the villain contest, he beat some fodder, then got owned by Sephiroth, and here, he beat some unimpressive opponents, too, and will now lose to Snake. Simply, Snake is better recognized, and is a hero. Being a villain rarely helps in these contests, and we saw how Samus beat Ganondorf. As long as the two opponents' respective games are both popular enough, the hero will always defeat the villain. There's one exception to that rule, but that exception is in its own bracket now.
Anyway, why would more people support Bowser against Snake than they would Zelda? Both are Nintendo, both are in SSBM, sure, Bowser has more of the "old school" factor, but does it matter all that much? In any case, Zelda is a sexy elf girl, while Bowser is an ugly oversized spiked turtle. The Legend of Zelda series is also considerably more popular than the Super Mario Brothers series here. Despite everything, I have a theory that girls simply don't get as much support here as they should (unless they look like robots), so I expect Bowser to do just a little better than Zelda. Not to mention that the pic mostly favours him, despite the nice approach of using an old school Metal Gear quote in the background.
Predicted percentage: Solid Snake with 53.17%.
From: DBZFIGHTERS
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:32:27 PM | Message Detail
| #262
Then he lost to Kirby in a close match.
Wait, what?
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:45:15 PM | Message Detail
| #263
*beat Kirby in a close match...
My bad.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Mario vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (84/96)
My bad.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Mario vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (84/96)
From: DarkLink89
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:45:34 PM | Message Detail
| #264
^5s Ulti and Outback!
Bowser for the win baby!
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Bowser for the win baby!
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It's official: Princess Peach has bouncing breasts in Super Mario Strikers! http://www.livejournal.com/users/the_gel/14416.html
From: shadow8021
| Posted: 9/13/2005 8:52:55 PM | Message Detail
| #265
And Ulti continues to underestimate Solid Snake...When will he learn?
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SC2K5 Score: 85/96
Today's Pick: Mario
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SC2K5 Score: 85/96
Today's Pick: Mario
From: BlAcK TuRtLe
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:09:41 PM | Message Detail
| #266
Geek: HAHA! I feel asleep! I remember that, good times. But dude, Bowser’s home field! He gets my vote.
Hey, I only made 3 topics this morning about that <.<
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Hey, I only made 3 topics this morning about that <.<
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From: bokunokuso
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:10:35 PM | Message Detail
| #267
I know I'm pulling for Bowser, however slim of a chance he may have.
Hey, isn't there a Koopa Army somewhere?
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Hey, isn't there a Koopa Army somewhere?
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Proud Supporter of Jay Solano for SC2k6
From: Draco1214
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:11:19 PM | Message Detail
| #268
*waves Snake flag proudly*
Go Snake! Beat down Bowser and break 45% on Mario!
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makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
Go Snake! Beat down Bowser and break 45% on Mario!
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: laszlow
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:20:54 PM | Message Detail
| #269
OK, I would love to see Snake win tomorrow's match for one reason:
diversity. Think about it - We have one Nintendo character in
Mario/Samus (almost certainly Mario at this point), one Squenix
character in Crono/Vincent, either a Sega character or a Capcom
character in Sonic/Mega, and a Konami character in Snake! Lots of
variety, and no SFFs in the final four!
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From: gonf
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:22:00 PM | Message Detail
| #270
Billy the Average Bracketmaker: Bowser will own that n00b, 65-35!
LOL. I remember when Billy owned you Moltar. What was the match? Was it Magus vs. Knuckles?
That was gold.
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LOL. I remember when Billy owned you Moltar. What was the match? Was it Magus vs. Knuckles?
That was gold.
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Most wanted game: Battalion Wars
From: gonf
| Posted: 9/13/2005 10:37:44 PM | Message Detail
| #271
Ah, I found it. It was Kirby vs. Cecil.
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Most wanted game: Battalion Wars
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Most wanted game: Battalion Wars
From: XxBilly2xX
| Posted: 9/14/2005 5:35:34 PM | Message Detail
| #272
I own Moltar all the time.
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From: XxSoulxX
| Posted: 9/14/2005 5:53:10 PM | Message Detail
| #273
My prediction is looking really, really good right about now.
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From: bokunokuso
| Posted: 9/14/2005 7:16:34 PM | Message Detail
| #274
That's a great call.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/14/2005 7:59:42 PM | Message Detail
| #275
Mario.........................59.79% 58304
Samus Aran..............40.21% 39215
TOTAL VOTES.....................97519
54.23% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Bah, I had a post, but GameFAQs went down and I lost it, so here's the ghetto version. Mario wins easily. Poor Samus.
Snake in the lead. Bowser catching up. Will he make it in time?
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Tnote - 11
Soul - 10
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Tnote + highest pick = Point
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Snake vs. Bowser - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (84/104)
Samus Aran..............40.21% 39215
TOTAL VOTES.....................97519
54.23% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Bah, I had a post, but GameFAQs went down and I lost it, so here's the ghetto version. Mario wins easily. Poor Samus.
Snake in the lead. Bowser catching up. Will he make it in time?
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Tnote - 11
Soul - 10
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Tnote + highest pick = Point
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Snake vs. Bowser - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (84/104)
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/14/2005 8:00:30 PM | Message Detail
| #276
Flood/Devil Division Round 4 - Match 59 – (2)Crono vs. (5)Vincent Valentine
Crono - More like POOminare!
Round 1 – vs. Zidane (Crono: 76.72% - Zidane: 23.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Tommy (Crono: 70.85% - Vercetti: 29.15%)
Round 3 – vs. Master Chief (Crono: 61.29% - Chief: 38.71%)
Chief does well against Crono. Perhaps….too well.
Vincent - He’ll always be MY Valentine <3
Round 1 – vs. Kerrigan (Vincent: 79.00% - Kerrigan: 21.00%)
Round 2 – vs. Dante (Vincent: 54.00% - Dante: 46.00%)
Round 3 – vs. Squall (Vincent: 50.59% - Squall: 49.41%)
In a very close match, Vincent is able to beat Squall.
In what should be my shortest analysis this round, we have Crono vs. Vincent. I don’t even think we need Contest history here, sweet.
Vincent showed in his match against Kerrigan that he was a force to be reckoned with. He might have been new, but he had some strength. He proved it too, by beating Dante and Squall in close matches. However, Dante and Squall are upper-midcarders. Heck, maybe even Squall can be considered a low elite, but Crono IS an elite. Crono is one of the strongest characters in this Contest. Vincent shouldn’t collapse though, especially after Crono made Master Chief (and DK indirectly) look very good….too good. Crono needs to impress though, because Sonic/Mega Man is around the Corner, and they aren’t playing around.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 59% - Vincent: 41%
Ulti’s Analysis
Of the matches in this round, this is the only one that is actually easy to call. Vincent barely beat SQUALL, and there's no way in the world that Squall could come close to Crono. Vincent may get a little bit of New:Old SFF, but I doubt it'll be much. The magic number to watch here is 40%, and whether or not Vincent breaks it.
Prediction: Crono with 58.24%
Soul’s Analysis
Super Something Round 3 Results!
Crono katana'd Chief: 61.29% - 38.71%
Vincent blasted Squall: 50.59 - 49.41
Thankfully, this match will be the final boring match of the contest, imo. Crono was lucky enough to be given the easiest road to the semi-finals this year. His toughest opponent so far has been Master Chief. You know, the character that almost lost to Donkey Kong. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Aya Brea. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Tommy Vercetti. The same Donkey Kong that got obliterated by Vivi. Yeah, basically, Crono was the luckiest character ever in this contest.
Of course, I'm absolutely positive that Vincent will be a whole lot stronger then Chief. Vincent is by far Crono's toughest challenge so far in the contest. Considering he is only around Squall's level (which I believe to have stayed the same since last year), he could put up quite a challenge against characters like Zero and Ganondorf.
Again, he's not up to par with Crono though. He could probably come close to 45%, but after Tifa only getting 43% against Sonic, it's looking highly unlikely. I'm not even sure he could break 40% against Crono.
Of course, I'm still going to predict low. I'm hoping that Crono shows a lot of weakness in this round so the winner of Sonic/MM will defeat him. I don't have any facts going with this prediction, other then the fact that Crono underperformed against Chief, and possibly Vercetti.
My prediction: Crono wins with 54.50% of the vote. The best match ever is next!
Outback’s Analysis
This is the only "bad" elite 8 match, and at least it serves the purpose to somewhat place Vincent. However, it won't be close, as Crono has shown that he is still up to his old tricks, and Vincent's matches against Squall and Dante haven't exactly been at an elite level.
Crono with 57.00%
Crono - More like POOminare!
Round 1 – vs. Zidane (Crono: 76.72% - Zidane: 23.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Tommy (Crono: 70.85% - Vercetti: 29.15%)
Round 3 – vs. Master Chief (Crono: 61.29% - Chief: 38.71%)
Chief does well against Crono. Perhaps….too well.
Vincent - He’ll always be MY Valentine <3
Round 1 – vs. Kerrigan (Vincent: 79.00% - Kerrigan: 21.00%)
Round 2 – vs. Dante (Vincent: 54.00% - Dante: 46.00%)
Round 3 – vs. Squall (Vincent: 50.59% - Squall: 49.41%)
In a very close match, Vincent is able to beat Squall.
In what should be my shortest analysis this round, we have Crono vs. Vincent. I don’t even think we need Contest history here, sweet.
Vincent showed in his match against Kerrigan that he was a force to be reckoned with. He might have been new, but he had some strength. He proved it too, by beating Dante and Squall in close matches. However, Dante and Squall are upper-midcarders. Heck, maybe even Squall can be considered a low elite, but Crono IS an elite. Crono is one of the strongest characters in this Contest. Vincent shouldn’t collapse though, especially after Crono made Master Chief (and DK indirectly) look very good….too good. Crono needs to impress though, because Sonic/Mega Man is around the Corner, and they aren’t playing around.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 59% - Vincent: 41%
Ulti’s Analysis
Of the matches in this round, this is the only one that is actually easy to call. Vincent barely beat SQUALL, and there's no way in the world that Squall could come close to Crono. Vincent may get a little bit of New:Old SFF, but I doubt it'll be much. The magic number to watch here is 40%, and whether or not Vincent breaks it.
Prediction: Crono with 58.24%
Soul’s Analysis
Super Something Round 3 Results!
Crono katana'd Chief: 61.29% - 38.71%
Vincent blasted Squall: 50.59 - 49.41
Thankfully, this match will be the final boring match of the contest, imo. Crono was lucky enough to be given the easiest road to the semi-finals this year. His toughest opponent so far has been Master Chief. You know, the character that almost lost to Donkey Kong. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Aya Brea. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Tommy Vercetti. The same Donkey Kong that got obliterated by Vivi. Yeah, basically, Crono was the luckiest character ever in this contest.
Of course, I'm absolutely positive that Vincent will be a whole lot stronger then Chief. Vincent is by far Crono's toughest challenge so far in the contest. Considering he is only around Squall's level (which I believe to have stayed the same since last year), he could put up quite a challenge against characters like Zero and Ganondorf.
Again, he's not up to par with Crono though. He could probably come close to 45%, but after Tifa only getting 43% against Sonic, it's looking highly unlikely. I'm not even sure he could break 40% against Crono.
Of course, I'm still going to predict low. I'm hoping that Crono shows a lot of weakness in this round so the winner of Sonic/MM will defeat him. I don't have any facts going with this prediction, other then the fact that Crono underperformed against Chief, and possibly Vercetti.
My prediction: Crono wins with 54.50% of the vote. The best match ever is next!
Outback’s Analysis
This is the only "bad" elite 8 match, and at least it serves the purpose to somewhat place Vincent. However, it won't be close, as Crono has shown that he is still up to his old tricks, and Vincent's matches against Squall and Dante haven't exactly been at an elite level.
Crono with 57.00%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/14/2005 8:00:54 PM | Message Detail
| #277
Inviso’s Analysis
Honestly, this has potential to one of the top 5 best matches of this contest, or it has the potential to be pathetic in favor of either character. This is the match that’ll be getting Square their final 4 contestant, and the two competitors are both surprising this year. Crono thus far, has had an oddly poor showing. His first two matches against Tommy Vercetti and Zidane were blowouts but nothing special. Zidane is from FF9, which is 1-3 in terms of match wins, and Tommy barely beat Kefka, all the while being extremely weak himself. The real example of Crono’s weakness though, is his round 3 match. Going in, Crono was a shoe in, and it was expected that he’d at least double Master Chief, who barely managed to beat Donkey Kong, and sucked against CATS. Crono started the match strong, but when the day vote came around, Master Chief tore though those percentages extremely fast, and made sure Crono just barely broke 60% against him. Remember, this is around 60% on the guy that couldn’t break 70% on fodder like CATS.
Vincent is the first newbie to make the elite eight since 2002, (I’m not counting the Spring Contests since they aren’t the same) and is alongside Bowser, one of only three characters outside the noble nine to ever make it this far, the third being Scorpion in 2002. Vincent was placed in one of the most stacked divisions we’ve ever seen, and I believe that it was, overall, the strongest division of the contest. (The noble nine divisions had them and one other maybe and that’s it) Round one, Vincent nearly quadrupled Kerrigan, marking Blizzard’s first ever round 1 loss. In round 2, he had a close match with Dante, and still managed to hit 54% exactly, quite a feat for someone new to the contest against a character who just had a highly acclaimed game released, and the one seed bracket voters. And in round 3, in a match he only won by a little more than 1000 votes, Vincent beat Squall, thankfully shutting Kyle Bowen, Cruel Angel, etc., up. And so Vincent made the elite 8, the newbie FFVII character, and would be facing his biggest challenge yet.
Crono will probably win, but once again, like last round with Tifa, I’m keeping up hope for one of the noble nine to finally be dethroned. In this case, Vincent is a relatively strong mid carder, having won his division over Dante, Squall, Knuckles, AND Magus. Crono has had extremely easy matches thus far, and yet still managed to perform horribly against Master Chief. Chrono Trigger has been showing weakness this entire contest, and I believe Vincent can finally put Crono down. FFVII has been proven by 2004 to be more popular than Chrono Trigger, so who knows if Vincent will be able to SFF the silent hero.
My Bracket: Crono
My Vote: Vincent Valentine
My Prediction: Vincent Valentine with 53.00%
Tnote’s Analysis
Well, color me impressed. Vincent not only avoided getting SFFed by the hero Squall, he even defeated him. If a hero from the same series was unable to SFF the optional sidequest playable Vincent, then the hero from a game half a decade earlier will not be able to siphon votes either. I cannot fathom a situation where Vincent would lose to Master Chief, so Crono should not be able to break 62%. However, he does have his most recognizable SNES sprite, the sprite which most account for Frog and Magus' ridiculous overperformances. The leaderboard is too riddled with Crono champions for me to ever make it up there, but am still gonna cheer like hell for my favorite mute.
Pick: Crono with 58.27%
Honestly, this has potential to one of the top 5 best matches of this contest, or it has the potential to be pathetic in favor of either character. This is the match that’ll be getting Square their final 4 contestant, and the two competitors are both surprising this year. Crono thus far, has had an oddly poor showing. His first two matches against Tommy Vercetti and Zidane were blowouts but nothing special. Zidane is from FF9, which is 1-3 in terms of match wins, and Tommy barely beat Kefka, all the while being extremely weak himself. The real example of Crono’s weakness though, is his round 3 match. Going in, Crono was a shoe in, and it was expected that he’d at least double Master Chief, who barely managed to beat Donkey Kong, and sucked against CATS. Crono started the match strong, but when the day vote came around, Master Chief tore though those percentages extremely fast, and made sure Crono just barely broke 60% against him. Remember, this is around 60% on the guy that couldn’t break 70% on fodder like CATS.
Vincent is the first newbie to make the elite eight since 2002, (I’m not counting the Spring Contests since they aren’t the same) and is alongside Bowser, one of only three characters outside the noble nine to ever make it this far, the third being Scorpion in 2002. Vincent was placed in one of the most stacked divisions we’ve ever seen, and I believe that it was, overall, the strongest division of the contest. (The noble nine divisions had them and one other maybe and that’s it) Round one, Vincent nearly quadrupled Kerrigan, marking Blizzard’s first ever round 1 loss. In round 2, he had a close match with Dante, and still managed to hit 54% exactly, quite a feat for someone new to the contest against a character who just had a highly acclaimed game released, and the one seed bracket voters. And in round 3, in a match he only won by a little more than 1000 votes, Vincent beat Squall, thankfully shutting Kyle Bowen, Cruel Angel, etc., up. And so Vincent made the elite 8, the newbie FFVII character, and would be facing his biggest challenge yet.
Crono will probably win, but once again, like last round with Tifa, I’m keeping up hope for one of the noble nine to finally be dethroned. In this case, Vincent is a relatively strong mid carder, having won his division over Dante, Squall, Knuckles, AND Magus. Crono has had extremely easy matches thus far, and yet still managed to perform horribly against Master Chief. Chrono Trigger has been showing weakness this entire contest, and I believe Vincent can finally put Crono down. FFVII has been proven by 2004 to be more popular than Chrono Trigger, so who knows if Vincent will be able to SFF the silent hero.
My Bracket: Crono
My Vote: Vincent Valentine
My Prediction: Vincent Valentine with 53.00%
Tnote’s Analysis
Well, color me impressed. Vincent not only avoided getting SFFed by the hero Squall, he even defeated him. If a hero from the same series was unable to SFF the optional sidequest playable Vincent, then the hero from a game half a decade earlier will not be able to siphon votes either. I cannot fathom a situation where Vincent would lose to Master Chief, so Crono should not be able to break 62%. However, he does have his most recognizable SNES sprite, the sprite which most account for Frog and Magus' ridiculous overperformances. The leaderboard is too riddled with Crono champions for me to ever make it up there, but am still gonna cheer like hell for my favorite mute.
Pick: Crono with 58.27%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/14/2005 8:02:04 PM | Message Detail
| #278
Vlado’s Analysis
I believed that Vincent could make his way to the Final Four by somehow SFFing Crono, but, after his flop against Squall, it's obvious that it just can't happen. Despite his lackluster performance against Master Chief, Crono has this one, and with ease. Vincent started in a very strong fashion, owning Kerrigan in what was expected to be a close match by some on the board. He then beat Dante with 54%, which wasn't too bad, given that Dante got a huge advantage with the bracket votes. However, he did incredibly badly against Squall, winning by just 1000 votes in a match where all factors, except "main character" were on his side...
That's why I just don't see Vincent winning here. Sure, he won't get completely owned, but Crono should get a convincing victory. Squall is simply nowhere near Crono's strength, even if Crono has dropped, as the match against Master Chief hinted, to the point where he's not even certain to beat Sonic (who has, by the way, increased a good deal). Sure, FFVII is mainstream, CT isn't, the casual characters are much stronger this year, but Crono is not Squall. He's not from FFVIII, there are much less people who dislike him than they do Squall. It will be a boring match, Crono will not be able to destroy Vincent, but he'll get a comfortable win. Unfortunately, I don't think Crono can get what he has long deserved, namely, a championship title, anymore. Mario has simply gotten way too strong even for him.
Predicted percentage: Crono with 58.48%.
I believed that Vincent could make his way to the Final Four by somehow SFFing Crono, but, after his flop against Squall, it's obvious that it just can't happen. Despite his lackluster performance against Master Chief, Crono has this one, and with ease. Vincent started in a very strong fashion, owning Kerrigan in what was expected to be a close match by some on the board. He then beat Dante with 54%, which wasn't too bad, given that Dante got a huge advantage with the bracket votes. However, he did incredibly badly against Squall, winning by just 1000 votes in a match where all factors, except "main character" were on his side...
That's why I just don't see Vincent winning here. Sure, he won't get completely owned, but Crono should get a convincing victory. Squall is simply nowhere near Crono's strength, even if Crono has dropped, as the match against Master Chief hinted, to the point where he's not even certain to beat Sonic (who has, by the way, increased a good deal). Sure, FFVII is mainstream, CT isn't, the casual characters are much stronger this year, but Crono is not Squall. He's not from FFVIII, there are much less people who dislike him than they do Squall. It will be a boring match, Crono will not be able to destroy Vincent, but he'll get a comfortable win. Unfortunately, I don't think Crono can get what he has long deserved, namely, a championship title, anymore. Mario has simply gotten way too strong even for him.
Predicted percentage: Crono with 58.48%.
From: smasherx
| Posted: 9/14/2005 10:28:39 PM | Message Detail
| #279
If Snake wins, Soul gets the point.
If Bowser wins, Outback gets the point.
Pressure's on, boys!
If Bowser wins, Outback gets the point.
Pressure's on, boys!
From: ina300
| Posted: 9/15/2005 2:08:11 AM | Message Detail
| #280
The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Tommy Vercetti
Almost lost? he did lose.
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Almost lost? he did lose.
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From: DBZFIGHTERS
| Posted: 9/15/2005 2:30:24 PM | Message Detail
| #281
O_O at Inviso
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/15/2005 2:31:37 PM | Message Detail
| #282
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/15/2005 2:32:26 PM | Message Detail
| #283
This one is pretty much between Soul and outback now.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:16:44 PM | Message Detail
| #284
Solid Snake................50.59% 51387
Bowser......................49.41% 50191
TOTAL VOTES......................101578
45.57% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Awesome match we had here. Snake took the lead early, but during the day, Bowser made a push for the lead. He cut off over 1000 votes, but once the second night vote kicked in, he was done. Still entertaining though. It also does wonders for Kirby's strength. =D
Today, Vincent is doing pretty good...or Crono isn't doing to good. Depends on how you look at it.
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Soul - 11
Tnote - 11
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Soul had the lowest Snake pick, so he gets the point.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Vincent - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (92/112)
Bowser......................49.41% 50191
TOTAL VOTES......................101578
45.57% of the brackets called this match correctly.
Awesome match we had here. Snake took the lead early, but during the day, Bowser made a push for the lead. He cut off over 1000 votes, but once the second night vote kicked in, he was done. Still entertaining though. It also does wonders for Kirby's strength. =D
Today, Vincent is doing pretty good...or Crono isn't doing to good. Depends on how you look at it.
CLOSEST PREDICTIONS
Soul - 11
Tnote - 11
Outback - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1
Soul had the lowest Snake pick, so he gets the point.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Vincent - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (92/112)
From: Invisa KayManek
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:19:26 PM | Message Detail
| #285
Both Crono is performing poorly, and Vincent is performing well.
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“How can you choose her over me?! I’m the one who loves you!”
CAC3 Thirtieth Place Overall
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“How can you choose her over me?! I’m the one who loves you!”
CAC3 Thirtieth Place Overall
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:21:46 PM | Message Detail
| #286
Chaos/Emerald Division Round 4 - Match 60 – (1)Sonic the Hedgehog vs. (1)Mega Man
Sonic - Has a fear of spikes.
Round 1 – vs. Jin (Sonic: 76.15% - Jin: 23.85%)
Round 2 – vs. Diablo (Sonic: 68.55% - Diablo: 31.45%)
Round 3 – vs. Tifa (Sonic: 56.40% - Tifa: 43.60%)
Not even Tifa could stop Sonic, or slow him down.
Mega Man - Also has a fear of spikes.
Round 1 – vs. Conker (Mega Man: 76.02% - Conker: 23.98%)
Round 2 – vs. Leon (Mega Man: 64.56% - Leon: 35.44%)
Round 3 – vs. Yoshi (Mega Man: 68.08% - Yoshi: 31.92%)
Mega Man gives himself a second chance by destroying Yoshi.
The final match of the Elite 8, and perhaps the toughest one to call on paper. We have the Blue Blur vs. the Blue Bomber. Let’s bluegin to analyze.
Alright, both have been around since 2002, and have been stunning us ever since then. In 2002, Sonic made it to the Sweet 16, were he lost against Samus by a mere 34 votes. Mega Man also lost in the Sweet 16 last year, and that was to Sephiroth. Mega Man came closer to beating Seph than anyone not named Link or Cloud has ever come, and got 49.49% on Seph. Mega Man ended up looking a bit stronger than Sonic that year.
2003 rolls around, and boy did it stink for these two. They were both victims of Square on roids, and those Square characters were Cloud and Sephiroth. Sonic was nearly doubled by Cloud in the Elite 8, after close matches with Zero and Aeris. Mega Man then went into the Final Four and did more than 10% worse on Sephiroth than he did the previous year. In the end, Mega Man came out looking much stronger than Sonic, who was under Magus that year.
So Sonic’s looking to be the weak link of the Noble Nine by 2004. Would that change by time the end of the Contest? Well, Mega Man was looking pretty good up until his match with Link, who pulled some crazy kind of SFF on him. Mega Man ended up with only 32% on Link, while Sonic lost to Samus with 42.5%. In the Un-Adjusted stats, Sonic ranked right above Mega Man, but Mega Man was adjusted up to his 2003 value.
So now we have this year. Neither Mega Man or Sonic is looking too hot going into this Contest. In fact, most figure that they are just going to be bait for Crono. Oh how wrong we were… Sonic comes out of Round 1 looking pretty weak, with only 76% on Jin. Mega Man then goes and gets 76% on Conker. I think it’s safe to say Conker > Jin, so advantage Mega Man.
Round 2 time. Sonic goes ahead and crushes Diablo, after Ganondorf had gotten 65% on him in the Spring. Mega Man then goes and “bombs” against Leon, who failed to get 60% on Gordon Freeman. Now, this either makes Mega Man look weak, or Gordon look strong. Some people just aren’t ready to see Gordon looking so strong, so Sonic gets the pick here.
In the Sweet 16, Sonic faced Tifa, who wasn’t looking to hot after her match with Luigi. Sonic had no troubles with her, and easily managed over 56% on her. Mega Man looked to be in deep doo-doo now, so he did what he had to do, and kicked Yoshi’s butt to no end. Yoshi was looking pretty good so far, and Mega Man killed all momentum the dino had by getting over 68% on the vote on him. SFF? Well, I would think so, seeing as how Leon > Yoshi is laughable. Advantage…they both did good I guess.
So, summary. Before Round 3, Sonic was looking to have this in the bag, but with Mega Man’s crushing of Yoshi, it has given the Mega supporters another boost of life. This is looking like a 50-50 match so far, with the slight advantage possibly going to Sonic. It’s really hard to give justification here as to why one character will win, so I’ll just end saying that it should be close, but I’m going with the Blue….Blur.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic: 51% - Mega Man: 49%
Sonic - Has a fear of spikes.
Round 1 – vs. Jin (Sonic: 76.15% - Jin: 23.85%)
Round 2 – vs. Diablo (Sonic: 68.55% - Diablo: 31.45%)
Round 3 – vs. Tifa (Sonic: 56.40% - Tifa: 43.60%)
Not even Tifa could stop Sonic, or slow him down.
Mega Man - Also has a fear of spikes.
Round 1 – vs. Conker (Mega Man: 76.02% - Conker: 23.98%)
Round 2 – vs. Leon (Mega Man: 64.56% - Leon: 35.44%)
Round 3 – vs. Yoshi (Mega Man: 68.08% - Yoshi: 31.92%)
Mega Man gives himself a second chance by destroying Yoshi.
The final match of the Elite 8, and perhaps the toughest one to call on paper. We have the Blue Blur vs. the Blue Bomber. Let’s bluegin to analyze.
Alright, both have been around since 2002, and have been stunning us ever since then. In 2002, Sonic made it to the Sweet 16, were he lost against Samus by a mere 34 votes. Mega Man also lost in the Sweet 16 last year, and that was to Sephiroth. Mega Man came closer to beating Seph than anyone not named Link or Cloud has ever come, and got 49.49% on Seph. Mega Man ended up looking a bit stronger than Sonic that year.
2003 rolls around, and boy did it stink for these two. They were both victims of Square on roids, and those Square characters were Cloud and Sephiroth. Sonic was nearly doubled by Cloud in the Elite 8, after close matches with Zero and Aeris. Mega Man then went into the Final Four and did more than 10% worse on Sephiroth than he did the previous year. In the end, Mega Man came out looking much stronger than Sonic, who was under Magus that year.
So Sonic’s looking to be the weak link of the Noble Nine by 2004. Would that change by time the end of the Contest? Well, Mega Man was looking pretty good up until his match with Link, who pulled some crazy kind of SFF on him. Mega Man ended up with only 32% on Link, while Sonic lost to Samus with 42.5%. In the Un-Adjusted stats, Sonic ranked right above Mega Man, but Mega Man was adjusted up to his 2003 value.
So now we have this year. Neither Mega Man or Sonic is looking too hot going into this Contest. In fact, most figure that they are just going to be bait for Crono. Oh how wrong we were… Sonic comes out of Round 1 looking pretty weak, with only 76% on Jin. Mega Man then goes and gets 76% on Conker. I think it’s safe to say Conker > Jin, so advantage Mega Man.
Round 2 time. Sonic goes ahead and crushes Diablo, after Ganondorf had gotten 65% on him in the Spring. Mega Man then goes and “bombs” against Leon, who failed to get 60% on Gordon Freeman. Now, this either makes Mega Man look weak, or Gordon look strong. Some people just aren’t ready to see Gordon looking so strong, so Sonic gets the pick here.
In the Sweet 16, Sonic faced Tifa, who wasn’t looking to hot after her match with Luigi. Sonic had no troubles with her, and easily managed over 56% on her. Mega Man looked to be in deep doo-doo now, so he did what he had to do, and kicked Yoshi’s butt to no end. Yoshi was looking pretty good so far, and Mega Man killed all momentum the dino had by getting over 68% on the vote on him. SFF? Well, I would think so, seeing as how Leon > Yoshi is laughable. Advantage…they both did good I guess.
So, summary. Before Round 3, Sonic was looking to have this in the bag, but with Mega Man’s crushing of Yoshi, it has given the Mega supporters another boost of life. This is looking like a 50-50 match so far, with the slight advantage possibly going to Sonic. It’s really hard to give justification here as to why one character will win, so I’ll just end saying that it should be close, but I’m going with the Blue….Blur.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man will win.
Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic: 51% - Mega Man: 49%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:22:35 PM | Message Detail
| #287
Ulti’s Analysis
Oh God, are there any two characters more fitting for a match than these two clowns? Neither character has been entertaining in well over a decade, yet both of their companies continue to shell out games for each without realizing that the series are both so far past their prime that the two characters are being disgraced with every new game that is released. It's funny how Mega Man went from being practically a platformer icon to having well over 100 titles that average out to 250,000 copies each (which is a joke, for those who don't keep up with sales figures), yet still has fans that bother anxiously looking forward to rehash after rehash. Sonic's plight is a little more forgivable, given that it was Sega's marketing team, not Sonic Team, that contributed to his demise more than anything else. Sonic went from being Mario's biggest threat to working for Nintendo. Does it get any funnier than that? Sonic has fallen so far that he actually put out a game for the N-GAGE, and unfortunately, the people over in Europe are allowing Sonic Team to think that their games are still good. These two characters need to be laid to rest before any more damage can be done, and quickly.
Not to say that I don't like the two characters, because I do. But the companies in charge of them are idiots, and the games reflect this. This match *should* end in a scoreless tie, but alas, such hilarity will probably never grace FAQs. Thus, I will say that Mega Man wins on the backbone of who I have in my bracket and move on. Though the side show to watch here will be FourthDeus. I fear for Board 8 if Mega actually manages to win, and though I like the guy quite a bit, he'll be hilarious to watch if it happens.
HAPPY-HAPPY VILLAGE IS TURNING BLUE! HA HA, GET IT? BLUE SFF 4LIFE!!1
Prediction: Mega Man with 50.78%
Outback’s Analysis
Honestly, what is wrong with this picture? Sonic has his classic smirk, and the MM7 Mega Man picture blends in perfectly with Sonic's.
But that's really besides the point. This match, pre-contest, had been called the match to decide who gets decimated by Crono. However, with today's results, the question may now be who get's to BEAT Crono. But again, I digress.
Mega Man just came off of a doubling of Yoshi, who, by no means, is weak, and is likely a high midcarder, and I would certainly put Yoshi over Tidus this year, meaning that Mega Man has increased a little. Sonic comes of doubling Tifa, who after her first match was hailed as the anti-Sonic and anti-Mega Man, and then proceeded to, as expectations went, drop the ball against Luigi. The question is where does she stand? Is she so close to Cloud as her match against Vyse said? Or is she closer to the level of Luigi, a solid midcarder. If it's the latter, this match should be a match for the ages. If it's the former, well, Mega Man should put his head between his legs and kiss his ass goodbye. However, I really can't see Tifa beating Yoshi this year, so I'll have to say this is going to be the match of the contest, with my bias saying Mega Man will pull it out.
Mega Man with 50.20%
Oh God, are there any two characters more fitting for a match than these two clowns? Neither character has been entertaining in well over a decade, yet both of their companies continue to shell out games for each without realizing that the series are both so far past their prime that the two characters are being disgraced with every new game that is released. It's funny how Mega Man went from being practically a platformer icon to having well over 100 titles that average out to 250,000 copies each (which is a joke, for those who don't keep up with sales figures), yet still has fans that bother anxiously looking forward to rehash after rehash. Sonic's plight is a little more forgivable, given that it was Sega's marketing team, not Sonic Team, that contributed to his demise more than anything else. Sonic went from being Mario's biggest threat to working for Nintendo. Does it get any funnier than that? Sonic has fallen so far that he actually put out a game for the N-GAGE, and unfortunately, the people over in Europe are allowing Sonic Team to think that their games are still good. These two characters need to be laid to rest before any more damage can be done, and quickly.
Not to say that I don't like the two characters, because I do. But the companies in charge of them are idiots, and the games reflect this. This match *should* end in a scoreless tie, but alas, such hilarity will probably never grace FAQs. Thus, I will say that Mega Man wins on the backbone of who I have in my bracket and move on. Though the side show to watch here will be FourthDeus. I fear for Board 8 if Mega actually manages to win, and though I like the guy quite a bit, he'll be hilarious to watch if it happens.
HAPPY-HAPPY VILLAGE IS TURNING BLUE! HA HA, GET IT? BLUE SFF 4LIFE!!1
Prediction: Mega Man with 50.78%
Outback’s Analysis
Honestly, what is wrong with this picture? Sonic has his classic smirk, and the MM7 Mega Man picture blends in perfectly with Sonic's.
But that's really besides the point. This match, pre-contest, had been called the match to decide who gets decimated by Crono. However, with today's results, the question may now be who get's to BEAT Crono. But again, I digress.
Mega Man just came off of a doubling of Yoshi, who, by no means, is weak, and is likely a high midcarder, and I would certainly put Yoshi over Tidus this year, meaning that Mega Man has increased a little. Sonic comes of doubling Tifa, who after her first match was hailed as the anti-Sonic and anti-Mega Man, and then proceeded to, as expectations went, drop the ball against Luigi. The question is where does she stand? Is she so close to Cloud as her match against Vyse said? Or is she closer to the level of Luigi, a solid midcarder. If it's the latter, this match should be a match for the ages. If it's the former, well, Mega Man should put his head between his legs and kiss his ass goodbye. However, I really can't see Tifa beating Yoshi this year, so I'll have to say this is going to be the match of the contest, with my bias saying Mega Man will pull it out.
Mega Man with 50.20%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:23:48 PM | Message Detail
| #288
Tnote’s Analysis
The Blue Blur vs. The Blue Bomber. Sega's Mascot vs. Capcom's Mascot. A really fast hedgehog vs. a robot boy. No matter how you look at it, this should be a battle for the ages. Sonic performed very well against Tifa, only to have Mega Man turn around and double Yoshi, who previously had doubled Pac-Man, who was doubled by Luigi, who almost beat Tifa, who performed around Cloud's level on Vyse, who is the fodder line. Confused? Well yeah, me too. With the exception of Magus, and Tidus/Kirby, I have had a very good grasp on this tournament. Sure, I missed Kefka and Ocelot, but I knew both those matches could go either way. I really want to see Crono/Mario IV, but right up there is my wanting to see Mario/Sonic. SMW just hammered StH2 in the games contest, and while everyone screams 'games /= characters' we could certainly have that prove it. But... I do not think we will get a chance. Sonic has looked good, but Mega Man better. Leon's not fodder, and neither is Gordon Freeman. And with that, I am off to go accumulate canned goods and water.
Pick: Mega Man with 50.83%
Vlado’s Analysis
Ironically, the clearest match in the quarterfinals was also the closest. Now, we've come to the toughest one, and I don't think it'll be nearly as close as Snake vs. Bowser, though I still expect it to be somewhat close. So far, both opponents impressed. Sonic didn't do as well as expected against Jin, but then completely owned Diablo and even Tifa, who was expected to do at least a bit better. It proved that Sonic is much stronger now than he was in the past 2 years, and Jin is probably just stronger than one would initially expect. The match against Tifa ultimately proved Sonic's strength. Over 56% on Tifa was incredible, and I doubt many others could achieve it. Sonic has gone up and he'll prove it.
Mega Man, on the other hand, had the easiest division ever. His only possible comeptition were Revolver Ocelot, who couldn't even beat Pac-Man, and Yoshi, who simply sucked this year. Rock beat Conker, getting what was expected, but then didn't do all that good against Leon. Apparently, that was because of Leon's strength, not Rockman's weakness, since the Blue Bomber then went on to own Yoshi, doubling him in a match that shocked many. Was there SFF in it? Or was the picture advantage able to make such a difference? We can't really know... But the fact remains that Rockman owned his opponent and is now considered the favourite against Sonic.
But I believe that Sonic's win over Tifa proved much more than Rockman's over Yoshi... Tifa is certainly stronger than Yoshi, who might've become even weaker than Luigi this year. I don't think getting 70% on Laharl and Pac-Man says all that much. Probably Rock simply overperformed on Yoshi. I don't know. I just have the feeling that Sonic will win. He simply has more going for him, he's almost on Mario's level in the industry, he's a legend. Rockman is too, but he's still below Sonic. The Blue Blur will win.
Predicted percentage: Sonic the Hedgehog with 52.29%.
The Blue Blur vs. The Blue Bomber. Sega's Mascot vs. Capcom's Mascot. A really fast hedgehog vs. a robot boy. No matter how you look at it, this should be a battle for the ages. Sonic performed very well against Tifa, only to have Mega Man turn around and double Yoshi, who previously had doubled Pac-Man, who was doubled by Luigi, who almost beat Tifa, who performed around Cloud's level on Vyse, who is the fodder line. Confused? Well yeah, me too. With the exception of Magus, and Tidus/Kirby, I have had a very good grasp on this tournament. Sure, I missed Kefka and Ocelot, but I knew both those matches could go either way. I really want to see Crono/Mario IV, but right up there is my wanting to see Mario/Sonic. SMW just hammered StH2 in the games contest, and while everyone screams 'games /= characters' we could certainly have that prove it. But... I do not think we will get a chance. Sonic has looked good, but Mega Man better. Leon's not fodder, and neither is Gordon Freeman. And with that, I am off to go accumulate canned goods and water.
Pick: Mega Man with 50.83%
Vlado’s Analysis
Ironically, the clearest match in the quarterfinals was also the closest. Now, we've come to the toughest one, and I don't think it'll be nearly as close as Snake vs. Bowser, though I still expect it to be somewhat close. So far, both opponents impressed. Sonic didn't do as well as expected against Jin, but then completely owned Diablo and even Tifa, who was expected to do at least a bit better. It proved that Sonic is much stronger now than he was in the past 2 years, and Jin is probably just stronger than one would initially expect. The match against Tifa ultimately proved Sonic's strength. Over 56% on Tifa was incredible, and I doubt many others could achieve it. Sonic has gone up and he'll prove it.
Mega Man, on the other hand, had the easiest division ever. His only possible comeptition were Revolver Ocelot, who couldn't even beat Pac-Man, and Yoshi, who simply sucked this year. Rock beat Conker, getting what was expected, but then didn't do all that good against Leon. Apparently, that was because of Leon's strength, not Rockman's weakness, since the Blue Bomber then went on to own Yoshi, doubling him in a match that shocked many. Was there SFF in it? Or was the picture advantage able to make such a difference? We can't really know... But the fact remains that Rockman owned his opponent and is now considered the favourite against Sonic.
But I believe that Sonic's win over Tifa proved much more than Rockman's over Yoshi... Tifa is certainly stronger than Yoshi, who might've become even weaker than Luigi this year. I don't think getting 70% on Laharl and Pac-Man says all that much. Probably Rock simply overperformed on Yoshi. I don't know. I just have the feeling that Sonic will win. He simply has more going for him, he's almost on Mario's level in the industry, he's a legend. Rockman is too, but he's still below Sonic. The Blue Blur will win.
Predicted percentage: Sonic the Hedgehog with 52.29%.
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:24:09 PM | Message Detail
| #289
Inviso’s Analysis
This is it, the final match of round 4. This has the potential to be even more interesting than Samus vs. Mario, simply because there should be little to no SFF here. This, like most of the matches in this contest thus far, could go either way. Sonic started off performing very weakly against Jin, and to those who followed the XStats, this was a horrible performance. Then in round 2, he took on Diablo, who had made the final 4 in the spring villains contest. He got about 3% higher than Ganondorf in that match, and that’s the same Ganondorf that went on to break 40% against Sephiroth in the finals. Sonic was looking extremely strong after this match. And in round 3, he took on a Final Fantasy character. Tifa had been looking very stronger herself, beating Vyse with Cloud-like numbers, and then beating Luigi with a reasonable percentage, given the Nintendo increase, but Sonic just went blue blur on her ass and beat her by about 3% higher than he did on fellow FF girl, Aeris Gainsborough. Sonic, who had for the longer time been regarded as one of the weakest noble nine characters, was now looking to be a good choice for the finals.
Mega Man started off strong, performing just a little bit worse than Crono did against Conker. And Crono, before this contest, was one of the main choices to win the whole thing. But then, in round 2, with perhaps one of the WORST match pictures I have ever seen (Archie vs. a Zombie) Mega Man underperformed one hell of a lot against Leon Kennedy, a character that couldn’t break 60% against Gordon Freeman. It didn’t seem right, and in fact, it made Mega Man look like the weakest of the noble nine, letting a newbie do that well against him. But then in round three, he took on Yoshi, and he beat the MARIO character by more than he beat the RESIDENT EVIL character. That match just went to show that this contest has absolutely no predictability whatsoever. Mega Man, with this match, put the elite 8 into question, more than it already was. In fact, the only way I can honestly account for it is some kind of SFF. It’s not like Link/Mega Man SFF, because Mega Man and Mario as series actually have a lot in common. But still, even with SFF, Yoshi got owned.
In this match, I think that it will be very close, perhaps even Squall/Vincent close. But in the end, I think Sonic can pull it off, because he’s just had a boost his year, as evidenced by Knuckles’ strength, and his own power over the three characters he’s faced, two of which should be relatively strong. Mega Man has just seemed to be on a decline for a while, and with Zero’s extreme beating by Mario, I don’t think Mega Man can win this match.
My Bracket: Mega Man
My Vote: Sonic the Hedgehog
My Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 50.19%
This is it, the final match of round 4. This has the potential to be even more interesting than Samus vs. Mario, simply because there should be little to no SFF here. This, like most of the matches in this contest thus far, could go either way. Sonic started off performing very weakly against Jin, and to those who followed the XStats, this was a horrible performance. Then in round 2, he took on Diablo, who had made the final 4 in the spring villains contest. He got about 3% higher than Ganondorf in that match, and that’s the same Ganondorf that went on to break 40% against Sephiroth in the finals. Sonic was looking extremely strong after this match. And in round 3, he took on a Final Fantasy character. Tifa had been looking very stronger herself, beating Vyse with Cloud-like numbers, and then beating Luigi with a reasonable percentage, given the Nintendo increase, but Sonic just went blue blur on her ass and beat her by about 3% higher than he did on fellow FF girl, Aeris Gainsborough. Sonic, who had for the longer time been regarded as one of the weakest noble nine characters, was now looking to be a good choice for the finals.
Mega Man started off strong, performing just a little bit worse than Crono did against Conker. And Crono, before this contest, was one of the main choices to win the whole thing. But then, in round 2, with perhaps one of the WORST match pictures I have ever seen (Archie vs. a Zombie) Mega Man underperformed one hell of a lot against Leon Kennedy, a character that couldn’t break 60% against Gordon Freeman. It didn’t seem right, and in fact, it made Mega Man look like the weakest of the noble nine, letting a newbie do that well against him. But then in round three, he took on Yoshi, and he beat the MARIO character by more than he beat the RESIDENT EVIL character. That match just went to show that this contest has absolutely no predictability whatsoever. Mega Man, with this match, put the elite 8 into question, more than it already was. In fact, the only way I can honestly account for it is some kind of SFF. It’s not like Link/Mega Man SFF, because Mega Man and Mario as series actually have a lot in common. But still, even with SFF, Yoshi got owned.
In this match, I think that it will be very close, perhaps even Squall/Vincent close. But in the end, I think Sonic can pull it off, because he’s just had a boost his year, as evidenced by Knuckles’ strength, and his own power over the three characters he’s faced, two of which should be relatively strong. Mega Man has just seemed to be on a decline for a while, and with Zero’s extreme beating by Mario, I don’t think Mega Man can win this match.
My Bracket: Mega Man
My Vote: Sonic the Hedgehog
My Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 50.19%
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:25:30 PM | Message Detail
| #290
Soul’s Analysis
Super Speedy Round 3 Results!
Sonic sped by Tifa: 56.4% - 43.6%
Mega Man shot Yoshi: 68.08% - 31.92%
Ok guys, let's get to some off-topic comments for a moment or two. This will be my favorite match in the contest. I've tried to hype this match since the very start, and it looks to become an excellent 50/50 could-go-any-way type match. I've been saying all along that Sonic will win. Even before the contest began. Even before this whole boost out of nowhere from Nintendo and Sonic. Before the Knux > Magus upset. Before the MM bombing against Leon.
I have always been supporting Sonic, and I will continue to support Sonic throughout the match. I believe that he has a great shot at winning here. Since the end of the last contest, I knew that the adjusted stats looked weird. I definitely believed that Mega should not have been adjusted. After his first 2 rounds this year, it looked as if I was right. Then, he just totally demolished Yoshi. I finally understood what those stat-fanboys were talking about.
No, I don't believe that there was your typical SFF involved in the Link/MM and MM/Yoshi matches. I believe that MM and Sonic are associated with Nintendo, even though they are from different companies. I believe that those Nintendo fans have "adopted" Mega Man and Sonic. Why do I believe this? How else will you explain those 2 matches?
Now, since I believe that those two are adopted, there techinically could be some sort of strange SFF here. Of course, this is not as crazy as the Snake/Sora SFF, but I still believe this to be somewhat true. Mega Man and Sonic are the two characters that are closest to being Nintendo characters without actually being Nintendo characters. There could be SFF here, but I'm not going to say (or predict) that there would be.
During last contest, there was controversy about the stats. Should Mega Man be adjusted to being stronger then Sonic, or left to be weaker then Sonic. When the bracket was revealed to have these two meeting, we would soon find out. Of course, this was before thinking of any boosts from any characters. As of now, last year's stats look absolutely pathetic, and should not be used this year.
This year's stats seems to point in favor of Yoshi. Why? Just because Mega Man got around 68% on him. That is the only reason why people believe that Mega Man is a "lock" to the Semi-Finals. Considering that Mega Man is partially Nintendo, and would get some "SFF" (that term needs to be fixed, btw) against weaker Nintendo characters, his 68% doesn't look all too impressive, in my opinion. Well, of course it still does look good, but not good enough to me.
Sonic has had a great year so far. He "struggled" somehow against an unranked character called Jin Kazama. Of course, people's opinions were changed after he got 68.55% against Diablo. To compare: Ganondorf got 65.2% against Diablo in the Spring. That puts him over 3% higher then Ganondorf in the stats. I know it doesn't seem much, but being projected to get 39% on Base Link is very, very impressive. Of course, I didn't even factor in the link from diabloii.net. If I did, Sonic would have had over 69% (or very close to it) against Diablo, which puts him at 40% on BL. Take the Spring stats with a grain of salt though.
Mega Man couldn't even break 65% against someone who couldn't break 60% against Gordon Freeman. Yeah, yeah, you can say that Gordon got the biggest boost ever seen, but I don't believe it. Sure, he did get a boost, but not that high. Hell, no one even believed that until the Mega Man/Yoshi match. I wonder why...
Super Speedy Round 3 Results!
Sonic sped by Tifa: 56.4% - 43.6%
Mega Man shot Yoshi: 68.08% - 31.92%
Ok guys, let's get to some off-topic comments for a moment or two. This will be my favorite match in the contest. I've tried to hype this match since the very start, and it looks to become an excellent 50/50 could-go-any-way type match. I've been saying all along that Sonic will win. Even before the contest began. Even before this whole boost out of nowhere from Nintendo and Sonic. Before the Knux > Magus upset. Before the MM bombing against Leon.
I have always been supporting Sonic, and I will continue to support Sonic throughout the match. I believe that he has a great shot at winning here. Since the end of the last contest, I knew that the adjusted stats looked weird. I definitely believed that Mega should not have been adjusted. After his first 2 rounds this year, it looked as if I was right. Then, he just totally demolished Yoshi. I finally understood what those stat-fanboys were talking about.
No, I don't believe that there was your typical SFF involved in the Link/MM and MM/Yoshi matches. I believe that MM and Sonic are associated with Nintendo, even though they are from different companies. I believe that those Nintendo fans have "adopted" Mega Man and Sonic. Why do I believe this? How else will you explain those 2 matches?
Now, since I believe that those two are adopted, there techinically could be some sort of strange SFF here. Of course, this is not as crazy as the Snake/Sora SFF, but I still believe this to be somewhat true. Mega Man and Sonic are the two characters that are closest to being Nintendo characters without actually being Nintendo characters. There could be SFF here, but I'm not going to say (or predict) that there would be.
During last contest, there was controversy about the stats. Should Mega Man be adjusted to being stronger then Sonic, or left to be weaker then Sonic. When the bracket was revealed to have these two meeting, we would soon find out. Of course, this was before thinking of any boosts from any characters. As of now, last year's stats look absolutely pathetic, and should not be used this year.
This year's stats seems to point in favor of Yoshi. Why? Just because Mega Man got around 68% on him. That is the only reason why people believe that Mega Man is a "lock" to the Semi-Finals. Considering that Mega Man is partially Nintendo, and would get some "SFF" (that term needs to be fixed, btw) against weaker Nintendo characters, his 68% doesn't look all too impressive, in my opinion. Well, of course it still does look good, but not good enough to me.
Sonic has had a great year so far. He "struggled" somehow against an unranked character called Jin Kazama. Of course, people's opinions were changed after he got 68.55% against Diablo. To compare: Ganondorf got 65.2% against Diablo in the Spring. That puts him over 3% higher then Ganondorf in the stats. I know it doesn't seem much, but being projected to get 39% on Base Link is very, very impressive. Of course, I didn't even factor in the link from diabloii.net. If I did, Sonic would have had over 69% (or very close to it) against Diablo, which puts him at 40% on BL. Take the Spring stats with a grain of salt though.
Mega Man couldn't even break 65% against someone who couldn't break 60% against Gordon Freeman. Yeah, yeah, you can say that Gordon got the biggest boost ever seen, but I don't believe it. Sure, he did get a boost, but not that high. Hell, no one even believed that until the Mega Man/Yoshi match. I wonder why...
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 7:25:38 PM | Message Detail
| #291
In round 3, Sonic again lived up to (and exceeded) most of our
expectations. He not only defeated Tifa (who was supposed to upset
Sonic), but he beat her with more then 13 thousand more votes.
Defeating a FF7 character is impressive by itself. But defeating a
relatively strong FF7 character the way that Sonic did is damn right
awe-inspiring. Yes, I know it was overshadowed, but it doesn't change
the fact that it was a great victory for Sonic.
Then, there was the controversial MM/Yoshi match. Without trying to repeat myself here, I believe there was some sort of SFF for MM in this match, causing him to get much better then he was supposed to get. Of course, unless you believe there was no SFF at all in that match, and Yoshi would have a very tough match against Gordon Freeman...
So basically, Sonic looks to be the favorite right now, assuming there is SFF in Yoshi/MM. But, that's not enough proof for you. Oh no, you are dead certain that Mega Man can not lose to Sonic because of whatever reason you can think of. Well, let's go by franchise then.
The Sonic franchise and the Mega Man franchise are somewhat similar. Both have a lot of great games in them, and it's hard to choose which game would be the best. In Spring of 2004, we saw our first ever Games Contest. Sonic 2 was the only representative from the Sonic franchise. Mega Man had none. My point with this: Nothing, just Sonic's franchise was able to get a game in while MM's couldn't.
In 2003, Sonic's absolute weakest year, he let Zero get 47+% on him. Say what you want, but Sonic performed like crap. In 2004, Zero got 44% on Mega Man. You know what that means? Absolutely nothing.
In 2005, the year that counts, Zero lost horribly to Mario. But, he was shown to have weakened during his first 2 matches as well. Knuckles, on the otherhand, defeated Magus and put up excellent numbers against Squall.
Basically, Sonic's backup character looks to have risen, while MM's backup character looks to have fallen. Preach about how Knux =/= Sonic, or Zero =/= Mega Man all you want. I'm just showing a little fact.
So, basically, Knuckles and Sonic has performed exceptionally well through-out the contest. Mega Man and Zero look to be weakening. Of course, this is all based on last year's stats. Not a good idea, but for reference sake, there's no other choice. With Sonic looking to go up, while Mega Man looks to be going down, Sonic is going to win.
Last but not least, forget everything I just said. You see a poll between Mega Man and Sonic. Sonic is definitely more known and more popular. I believe more people will choose Sonic because he's more popular. That's what I've been thinking since the contest started, and I'm sticking by it until I've been proven wrong.
My prediction: Sonic wins with 53.00% of the vote. Blue Blur > Blue Bomber.
Then, there was the controversial MM/Yoshi match. Without trying to repeat myself here, I believe there was some sort of SFF for MM in this match, causing him to get much better then he was supposed to get. Of course, unless you believe there was no SFF at all in that match, and Yoshi would have a very tough match against Gordon Freeman...
So basically, Sonic looks to be the favorite right now, assuming there is SFF in Yoshi/MM. But, that's not enough proof for you. Oh no, you are dead certain that Mega Man can not lose to Sonic because of whatever reason you can think of. Well, let's go by franchise then.
The Sonic franchise and the Mega Man franchise are somewhat similar. Both have a lot of great games in them, and it's hard to choose which game would be the best. In Spring of 2004, we saw our first ever Games Contest. Sonic 2 was the only representative from the Sonic franchise. Mega Man had none. My point with this: Nothing, just Sonic's franchise was able to get a game in while MM's couldn't.
In 2003, Sonic's absolute weakest year, he let Zero get 47+% on him. Say what you want, but Sonic performed like crap. In 2004, Zero got 44% on Mega Man. You know what that means? Absolutely nothing.
In 2005, the year that counts, Zero lost horribly to Mario. But, he was shown to have weakened during his first 2 matches as well. Knuckles, on the otherhand, defeated Magus and put up excellent numbers against Squall.
Basically, Sonic's backup character looks to have risen, while MM's backup character looks to have fallen. Preach about how Knux =/= Sonic, or Zero =/= Mega Man all you want. I'm just showing a little fact.
So, basically, Knuckles and Sonic has performed exceptionally well through-out the contest. Mega Man and Zero look to be weakening. Of course, this is all based on last year's stats. Not a good idea, but for reference sake, there's no other choice. With Sonic looking to go up, while Mega Man looks to be going down, Sonic is going to win.
Last but not least, forget everything I just said. You see a poll between Mega Man and Sonic. Sonic is definitely more known and more popular. I believe more people will choose Sonic because he's more popular. That's what I've been thinking since the contest started, and I'm sticking by it until I've been proven wrong.
My prediction: Sonic wins with 53.00% of the vote. Blue Blur > Blue Bomber.
From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 9/15/2005 8:33:25 PM | Message Detail
| #292
Wow Soul... that is a novel.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 9/15/2005 8:34:23 PM | Message Detail
| #293
I expected nothing less from him on this match.
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From: laszlow
| Posted: 9/15/2005 9:12:34 PM | Message Detail
| #294
Why is everyone so surprised at Jin Kazama's stength? Casual gamers who
hadn't played a good Sonic game in eight years had Tekken 5 (which has
been the "in" game at most arcades laszlow's visited over the summer)
staring them in the face. Jin's awesomeness in an awesome game helped
him a ton.
And second of all, even if Mega Man hasn't had a classic on his hands since X3, he will always be my favorite video game character, for numerous reasons, and Capcom will always be my tied-for-favorite game company ever (tied with Konami and Nintendo). Mega Man for the win.
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And second of all, even if Mega Man hasn't had a classic on his hands since X3, he will always be my favorite video game character, for numerous reasons, and Capcom will always be my tied-for-favorite game company ever (tied with Konami and Nintendo). Mega Man for the win.
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From: M120T
| Posted: 9/15/2005 11:05:25 PM | Message Detail
| #295
I just noticed that you put Chaos/Emerald division >_>
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From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 9/15/2005 11:06:19 PM | Message Detail
| #296
I'm surprised Sonic has the edge with the crew.
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe
| Posted: 9/15/2005 11:18:59 PM | Message Detail
| #297
Sure, he did get a boost, but not that high. Hell, no one even believed that until the Mega Man/Yoshi match. I wonder why...
Because it explains both the "underperformance" against Leon, and the "overperformance" against Yoshi.
I personally disagree with Soul because it seems like he's grasping at straws to proove Blur>Bomber. I can prove Bomber>Blur much more easily.
Gordon vs Leon featured 2 characters who have recieved extraordinary and fan-favoured games after not getting any for a long time. We don't know where Leon sat in comparison to other characters, and we know that Freeman HAD to have recieved a HUGE boost after HL2 (it would assinine to think otherwise). I think Gordon is around the low-medium midcarder range now and Leon just above him (Nintendo boost may have impacted). If so, then Megaman beat Leon with respectable numbers, compared to Sonic against Jin. Although we expect Jin to be stronger then his predecessor, at most Sonic performed just right against him compared to MM's decent win against Leon.
Sonic did surprise against Diablo, but I think we can assume that Diablo was highly over-rated in the Spring contest. Once again, Sonic seems to have done as expected or a little more.
Then Sonic takes on Tifa, a contest n00b that we can assume would be near Aeris' level. He did pretty good on her, a little better then I expected, but then MM DOUBLES YOSHI!!! Sure you can expect a little SFF (I think it's stretching it) but Yoshi is by no means weak, and MM made him look near fodder. What this match shows us is that SFF included, Yoshi and Leon have to be near eachother, which indirectly implies Gordon might win against Pac-Man or Ocelot (hope so, I'm tired of GFNW. Give the guy a break Ceej).
I'm going to say this match will go 53-47 for Megaman.
If Moltar lets the newbie guestwrite, I'll say...
Megaman 52.95, Sonic 48.05
This is also for the sake of my bracket.
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Because it explains both the "underperformance" against Leon, and the "overperformance" against Yoshi.
I personally disagree with Soul because it seems like he's grasping at straws to proove Blur>Bomber. I can prove Bomber>Blur much more easily.
Gordon vs Leon featured 2 characters who have recieved extraordinary and fan-favoured games after not getting any for a long time. We don't know where Leon sat in comparison to other characters, and we know that Freeman HAD to have recieved a HUGE boost after HL2 (it would assinine to think otherwise). I think Gordon is around the low-medium midcarder range now and Leon just above him (Nintendo boost may have impacted). If so, then Megaman beat Leon with respectable numbers, compared to Sonic against Jin. Although we expect Jin to be stronger then his predecessor, at most Sonic performed just right against him compared to MM's decent win against Leon.
Sonic did surprise against Diablo, but I think we can assume that Diablo was highly over-rated in the Spring contest. Once again, Sonic seems to have done as expected or a little more.
Then Sonic takes on Tifa, a contest n00b that we can assume would be near Aeris' level. He did pretty good on her, a little better then I expected, but then MM DOUBLES YOSHI!!! Sure you can expect a little SFF (I think it's stretching it) but Yoshi is by no means weak, and MM made him look near fodder. What this match shows us is that SFF included, Yoshi and Leon have to be near eachother, which indirectly implies Gordon might win against Pac-Man or Ocelot (hope so, I'm tired of GFNW. Give the guy a break Ceej).
I'm going to say this match will go 53-47 for Megaman.
If Moltar lets the newbie guestwrite, I'll say...
Megaman 52.95, Sonic 48.05
This is also for the sake of my bracket.
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From: XxSoulxX
| Posted: 9/15/2005 11:20:27 PM | Message Detail
| #298
Wow Soul... that is a novel.
I've been hyping this match for as long as I could remember. Anything less by me would be a disappointment.
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I've been hyping this match for as long as I could remember. Anything less by me would be a disappointment.
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From: XxSoulxX
| Posted: 9/16/2005 10:16:23 AM | Message Detail
| #299
I need Sonic to win the night vote, or else my prediction is wrong.
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe
| Posted: 9/16/2005 11:13:04 AM | Message Detail
| #300
He's gonna need more then the night vote to win now. I predict a
Megaman pwnage. If I get the point that would be awesome, but I now
doubt it will be that much of a blowout.
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