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From: Undeniable | Posted: 9/6/2005 7:47:40 PM | Message Detail
Why would Snake perform better then Samus on a stronger Sora?
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:04:51 PM | Message Detail
Mario...............62.86% 67452
Zero.................37.14% 39856
TOTAL VOTES.............107308

80.06% of the brackets called this match correctly.

Wow, Mario does better than most of us expected. He started off strong, but Zero started to fight back with the day and night vote. Still, 63% on Zero is mighty impressive.

Today, Samus and Ganondorf seem to be canceling out any major SFF. Samus has around 59.5% on Ganon, which is better than Seph did. >.>

CLOSEST PREDICTIONS

Tnote - 10
Soul - 8
Vlado - 7
Outback - 6
Ulti - 6
Inviso - 5
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1

Everyone wasn't too far off, but Vlado was the closest.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Samus vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Ganon (60/68)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:06:06 PM | Message Detail
Gear Division Round 3 - Match 51 – (1)Solid Snake vs. (2)Sora
Metal Gear Solid vs. Metal Gear Keyblade

Snake
Round 1 – vs. Manny (Snake: 84.09% - Manny: 15.91%)
Round 2 – vs. Zelda (Snake: 54.41% - Zelda: 45.59%)

Snake silences the doubters and easily beats Zelda.

Sora
Round 1 – vs. Agent 47 (Sora: 70.73% - Agent 47: 29.27%)
Round 2 – vs. Alucard (Sora: 55.36% - Alucard: 44.64%)

Well, Snake was in little position to lose this from the start. I mean, the only way he could possibly lose is if he got a crappy Sprite picture again, and Sora got an awesome one. That didn’t happen. Snake is recognizable, right there in the front, while Sora has a cute little arrow over his head.

Besides, you know if the biggest threat here to Snake is his own sprite, you know he’s not losing this match. Snake just needs to impress, because Bowser is looking pretty darn scary right now.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Snake will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Snake: 59% - Sora: 41%



Ulti’s Analysis

I don't know how he does it, but Sora constantly kicks ass in this contest. I didn't think he had a prayer against Alucard, yet he wound up beating him with ease. In fact, Sora beat Alucard so badly that one could almost give him a fighter's chance in his match against Snake. A 55-45 beating of Alucard puts you rather close to the elites, and Solid Snake hasn't been showing any signs of being impressive in this contest. This will be yet another match in which Snake tries to show that he's as strong as he was in his 2002-2003 days, but ultimately fails. I'm thinking that Sora will make this a closer match than people think.



Prediction: Snake with 50.47%



Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Snake defeated Zelda: 54.41% - 45.59%

Sora defeated Alucard: 55.36% - 44.64%


Pretty similar results in the round 2 matches from these two. Snake defeated Zelda by 54.5%, while Sora defeated Alucard with just a bit more then 55%. Both matches could have gone 50/50, but didn't.

Solid Snake was expected by some to lose to Zelda. Even I predicted that the Hyrulean Princess would defeat Snake. Surprise, surprise, Snake managed to shock all those people by getting nearly 55% against her. That's an amazing number, considering she was backed by a Nintendo boost and a Legend of Zelda boost. That basically means that Snake also must have had a boost from somewhere. Most people are looking at MGS3 for it, and I agree with them. How else would he have got that boost?

Sora crushed my bracket, so therefore, I hate him. He was supposed to lose to Alucard, but somehow pulled out a 55% win against him. No problem, I'm sure it was part of the plan. Make Sora look strong until he gets his ass completely owned by Snake.

Really, this is just a boring match anyway you think of it. Zelda and Bowser are both stronger then Sora. Basically, this is just filler until the Snake/Bowser match next round.

My prediction: Snake wins with 60% of the vote.



Outback’s Analysis

Snake showed that he's not going to be a pushover of any sort in this contest, and without the Solid **** factor, a Snake victory is pretty much guaranteed.

Snake with 57.00%
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Samus vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Ganon (60/68)
From: shadow8021 | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:07:05 PM | Message Detail
A bit bold, don't you think Ulti?
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SC2K5 Score: 61/68
Today's Pick: Samus Aran
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:07:25 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

Well, Solid Snake, like last year, scored a very large blowout in round 1, against a character that could be considered cult at best, a character that only made it in because of Shake. Then he went on to the next round and beat Zellie, but not before she put up a damn good fight. Sora, in the other half of the division, faced the character considered to be “Neo-Tanner” and broke 70% on him. If Agent 47 really was Neo-Tanner, then this would’ve looked bad, but he had to have some sort of fanbase to make the bracket without the board’s support. Sora then went on to beat Alucard and make the sweet 16 for the second time in a row. Sora looked pretty strong, or Alucard pretty weak after that performance, but it became clear that Snake was winning this match. If Zelda, with a Nintendo increase, couldn’t do it, then a non-Nintendo character didn’t have a chance. Sora will still perform well, because he’s not fodder, and it’s Snake, master of the bad showing.

My Bracket: Solid Snake
My Vote: Sora
My Prediction: Solid Snake with 56.81%



Tnote’s Analysis

Well, I spent the past two weeks yelling from the rooftops how, with the Solid **** picture and the kickass CoM sprite, Sora would defeat Snake. After seeing the picture, it is a pimp Snake, against a 'about to have his neck broken' Sora. Perhaps this is CJayC's way of making up for Solid ****. In any case, this picture definitely favors Snake, and this match will definitely not be close. Yeah, I think Snake's horrible old-school sprite is a full 5% swing.

Pick: Snake with 54.83%



Vlado’s Analysis

Well, this match is pretty much clear. Both contestants defeated their opponents in Round 2 with similar scores, however, Snake beat Zelda, fully benefiting from the Nintendo increase, while Sora beat Alucard, who, as much as I hate to say it, has been dropping in popularity. I read some bull**** about Snake possibly losing here and stuff... All I can say is NO. He beat Zelda, no way he falls to Sora. OR Bowser, for that matter. I'm pretty sure that Zelda is about as strong as Bowser, maybe just a little bit weaker. Anyway, my point is that Sora will lose worse than Zelda did. It was common sense right before Snake vs. Zelda that the winner would make the Final Four. And the winner was Snake.

What interests me the most is whether Snake has gotten stronger since last year. So far, we have no indications towards a boost or a fall, though I must say that he handled Zelda in a very comfortable fashion, giving me some hopes of a rise. But I can't be sure... Either way, there's no way Snake makes the final. Mario will crush him in the semis, and he'll be lucky to even get past Bowser. As for Sora, I must say that he has been a very lucky little ******* these past two years, making it to the Sweet 16 without being really strong. But that's the end of the road for him.

Predicted percentage: Solid Snake with 58.67%.

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Samus vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Ganon (60/68)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:09:17 PM | Message Detail
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/6/2005 9:10:41 PM | Message Detail
Snake with 60%
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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 9/7/2005 7:59:25 AM | Message Detail
Why would Snake perform better then Samus on a stronger Sora?

Because he just did!

w00t. Feels good to make one prediction right for once..

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/7/2005 8:01:06 AM | Message Detail
Well, I highly doubt Snake will end higher than Samus did, but in either case, good call. Not sure why these results are the way they are, but fact of the matter is the stronger Solid looks, the more fun Solid/Bowser will be, and the more fun Samus/Mario vs. Solid/Bowser will be.

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From: SecksThaNemesis | Posted: 9/7/2005 8:05:32 AM | Message Detail
Soul FTW!
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From: laszlow | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:28:38 PM | Message Detail
Rump.

Rooby-rooby-roo!
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:37:27 PM | Message Detail
Samus Aran...................59.66% 53776
Ganondorf.......................40.34% 36363
TOTAL VOTES...........................90139

49.86% of the brackets called this match correctly.

Alright! Ganondorf does well, and Samus does well. I'm happy. Ganondorf did well in the sense that he didn't get SFF'd to hell, and Samus did well, because Seph didn't do this well on Ganondorf, only making her looked better than Seph.

Today, speaking of Samus, Sora only get 35% on her. Snake has over 66% as of now. Snake is creaming Sora, so he just threw himself right back in this Contest.

CLOSEST PREDICTIONS

Tnote - 10
Soul - 8
Vlado - 7
Inviso - 6
Outback - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1

Inviso makes a nice pick and gets the punto.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Snake vs. Sora - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (64/72)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:49:39 PM | Message Detail
Dream Division Round 3 - Match 52 – (1)Kirby vs. (3)Bowser
Nintendownage!

Kirby
Round 1 – vs. Cecil (Kirby: 75.21% - Cecil: 24.79%)
Round 2 – vs. Tidus (Kirby: 57.65% - Zelda: 42.35%)

Kirby crushes Tidus pretty easily. How the lame have gotten even lamer.

Bowser
Round 1 – vs. Chun-Li (Bowser: 65.90% - Chun-Li: 34.10%)
Round 2 – vs. Ryu (Bowser: 58.98% - Ryu: 41.02%)

Bowser 2-0 against SF characters. He gives Ryu quite the beating too.

Well, I expected Tidus to be here, but since he isn’t, I’ll have to deal with…Kirby….*cheers*

Alright, 2 Nintendo characters. The first thing you’ll want to cry is, SFF! Well, don’t. We’ve already seen Samus/Ganondorf, and there wasn’t a giant amount of SFF there. There was barely any, as a matter of fact. Now, I would say Kirby and Bowser are just as different as Samus and Ganondorf are from each other. Therefore, I’m not expecting much in the case of SFF here. I think Bowser will win because he’s the legitimately stronger character. Kirby is pretty good himself, but I wouldn’t call him as strong as Bowser. The Puffball should do well though. He did beat Tidus after all. ^___________^

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Bowser will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kirby: 45% - Bowser: 55%



Ulti’s Analysis

It looks like Bowser should take this match with ease at a glance, but after looking at the first two rounds, this one is actually hard to call. Kirby absolutely destroyed Tidus in a match that most people on the board expected Tidus to win, while Bowser went and crushed Ryu into oblivion. I still think that Bowser can win this, but a lot of support going Kirby's way would not surprise me. He likely has more bracket support, plus he actually stars in his own recent hit. Bowser, awesome as he is, is a sidekick to Mario. It'll be interesting to see where the SFF goes, assuming there even is any.

Prediction: Bowser with 55.55%



Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Kirby defeated Tidus: 57.65% - 42.35%
Bowser defeated Ryu: 58.98% - 41.02%


This match is not in doubt at all. Bowser is going to demolish Kirby. There could be SFF in here (Nintendo/Nintendo matches usually get somewhat ugly) as well. Here's hoping we get a good match.

My prediction: Bowser wins with 65%. "I know what you're thinking....all this power, AND looks, too!" Bowser the Great.



Outback’s Analysis

At first glance, this match looks really obvious. Bowser is the stronger Nintendo character; he'll receive SFF along with having scored 40% on Sephiroth in Spring. However, Kirby might be able to put up a fight here. Tripling Cecil and scoring 57 on Tidus are not accomplishments to be brushed aside lightly. The real question is whether or not Tidus or Ryu dropped or rose since last year, since that will give you the real gauge of their strength. I have a feeling that Tidus was placed well in the 2k4 stats, and that Ryu may have slightly fell, but not enough to put Bowser below Kirby.

Bowser with 56.00%
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Snake vs. Sora - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (64/72)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:49:47 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

After three years of tragedy, Kirby finally got the chance. He made it farther in the contest than Dante. Congratulations to Kirby, because he es not dum. Anyway, Kirby is one of the three weak one seeds, which probably didn’t deserve that seeding in the first place, but still…he blew out an FF character, and then beat a more popular FF character that managed to give Ganondorf a run for his money. I attribute this, once again, to the massive Nintendo gain, and FFX’s falling in popularity. Anyway, on the other side, we had Bowser, who beat two Street Fighter characters considerably well, but Street Fighter isn’t exactly a force like it once was. It’s not fair, but what are you going to do. Anyway, Bowser’s got this one won pretty well, because when Nintendo faces Nintendo, Mario, Zelda, and Metroid trump all others. Bowser will probably be able to SFF Kirby, but not to the extent that Mario would SFF Ness. He might not even SFF all that much, but it’ll be enough to win.

My Bracket: Bowser Koopa
My Vote: Kirby
My Prediction: Bowser Koopa with 57.44%



Tnote’s Analysis

Another SSB:M match. Bowser showed against Ness that SFF can be quite cruel. Kirby put up numbers on Tidus last round that practically make him a lock for the Final Four. Kirby will not suffer SFF as badly as Ness did, but he still will not be done any favors from the Nintendo faithful. He has many games, across many generations to draw from, but in the end he is solely a Nintendo product, and Bowser will hold voting advantages on the vast majority of Nintendo opponents, except Mario, Samus and Link.

Pick: Bowser with 58.27%



Vlado’s Analysis


This is just another of the third round borefests. Despite Kirby having the top seed and despite his impressive win over Tidus, I think Bowser will win here, and without much trouble. The crazy Nintendo increase and the bracket votes are what gave Kirby such a huge win in what was supposed to be a close battle with Tidus. And, Tidus has obviously dropped. It seems that his terrible loss to Rockman last year hasn't been an accident. Anyway, Kirby's win was impressive, even if Tidus really did drop. To think I was quite certain that Tidus had that one... But, then again, the whole board was certain about Magus, so yeah.

I think it's Bowser who'll benefit more from the bracket vote in this one, though this will be pretty much even there. The spring contest characters have been favoured in the brackets, it seems, since less than 50% had Samus beating Ganon... A pick no one who has followed the contests so far would put under any doubt. Anyway, I think that Bowser will win here, but won't have much of a chance against Snake. Especially after Snake's incredible performance against Sora, which suggested that he has gotten stronger since last year.

Kirby is the underdog here, but, can he somehow win this? I'd say that pretty much anything's possible, but this is a Nintendo SFF match and the more popular characters tend to win these. Sure, Kirby is popular, but he's nowhere near Bowser's level. Bowser could even own Kirby really badly here, if SFF heavily
favours him. But, we come to the hero vs. villain factor again. While this is not nearly like Samus vs.
Ganon, I think that Kirby's cuteness and the fact that Bowser is a villain will save him from a loss that would make him look too bad.

Predicted percentage: Bowser with 51.76%

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Snake vs. Sora - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (64/72)
From: Subcontinental | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:51:17 PM | Message Detail
Tag.
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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:52:04 PM | Message Detail
Here's hoping Bowser can get a Snake-like number against Kirby next round.

Sorry for the small analysis, been busy with school. Hopefully the next matches can be better.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:53:40 PM | Message Detail
Wow, this Snake performance is awesome. <3
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 9/7/2005 7:58:56 PM | Message Detail
Here's hoping that Kirby can beat Bowser (even though my bracket says otherwise)
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From: EstOmnisBonus | Posted: 9/8/2005 11:42:12 AM | Message Detail
I'm actually pretty impressed with Kirby
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/8/2005 4:10:09 PM | Message Detail
Solid Snake...............65.26% 63664
Sora..........................34.74% 33887
TOTAL VOTES.......................97551

58.76% of the brackets called this match correctly.

Wow, Snake laid a serious beat down on Sora. Really, this is probably one of the biggest shockers of the Contest, ignoring upsets. Snake did only a little worse on Sora than Samus did, which is very scary, yet very cool at the same time.

Today, Kirby is shining like this cute little star he is. 46% on Bowser is impressive, and no SFF here. Keep it up Kirby!

CLOSEST PREDICTIONS

Tnote - 10
Soul - 9
Vlado - 7
Inviso - 6
Outback - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1

Soul had the highest Snake pick. Go him!
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:08:48 PM | Message Detail
Flood Division Round 3 - Match 53 – (1)Master Chief vs. (2)Crono
Another “Mainstream vs. Cult” clash!

Master Chief
Round 1 – vs. CATS (Chief: 68.83% - CATS: 31.17%)
Round 2 – vs. DK (Chief: 50.79% - DK: 49.21%)

Chief barely gets past Donkey Kong. That’s Halo 2 power for you!

Crono
Round 1 – vs. Zidane (Crono: 76.72% - Zidane: 23.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Tommy (Crono: 70.85% - Vercetti: 29.15%)

Crono beats Vercetti pretty badly, but it was expected.

Are you ready for a poll? Well, you better be!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1351 – Vercetti/DK

As you can see there, from 2003, Vercetti barely edged past DK, just like how Chief barely edged past DK. Now, since then, I would believe Vercetti has gone down, and DK up. So I would argue that Chief > DK > Vercetti. Still, look what Crono did to Vercetti. Chief isn’t that much stronger than him, so this should be ugly.

Simply, you don’t go in an all-day affair with DK, then try to beat Crono. Crono will own you if you do that. Chief is going to get owned.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Chief: 35% - Crono: 65%



Ulti’s Analysis

Oh, this one will be hilarious to watch. Master Chief, in the year that Halo 2 was released, almost lost to Donkey Kong. I can't help but think at all of those people who thought that Halo 2 would propel MC to the level of the elites without laughing my ass off.

Oh yeah, there's a match to read into.

"Master Chief has the easiest path to call in the entire contest." -Tediz247

Damn right. I call it a moral victory for him if he manages to win an update or two, but I'll be stunned if he breaks 35% on Mr. DBZ.

Prediction: Crono with 66.66%



Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Chief defeated Donkey Kong: 50.79% - 49.21%

Crono defeated Vercetti: 70.85% - 29.15%


Well, why not finish this horribly seeded division. The strongest character in the division gets placed second to Master Chief. Master freakin' Chief!. As mediocre as Chief is, he is still nominated higher and has more support going into the next round then Crono. This is completely unnacceptible.

Anyways, to see the true sign of weakness from Master Chief, all that you have to look at is his second round match. I know, people say that Nintendo has become more popular as a whole, but DK is definitely one of the weaker Nintendo characters in this contest. He struggled with Vercetti. He struggled with Aya Brea. He lost to Vivi. Yet, Master Chief was losing by over 2000 votes in this match before coming back to win it. He was losing to Donkey Kong. If that's not a sign of an overrated character, then I don't want to know what is.

Of course, Crono was his usual, quiet self. After easily defeating Zidane, he got over 70% on Tommy Vercetti. It was somewhat expected, I believe.

As said in past matches, this is relatively an easy match to decide the winner. Crono has destroyed people who are a lot stronger then Donkey Kong. Master Chief better make his time.

My prediction: Crono wins with 63.45% of the vote. Now that the boring matches are done, bring on the tough ones!



Outback’s Analysis

Boring. MC has failed to impress, and Crono is up to his old tricks again. On the plus side, the pic is pretty good.

Crono with 63.00%
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:08:58 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

Master Chief, despite having won both of his matches to make it to round 3, has proven to be the weakest one seed in this contest. He performed horribly against CATS, who is fodder, and then went on to barely beat Donkey Kong, who is the weakest Nintendo character in this contest after Ness. Crono on the other hand was once again underseeded and given ANOTHER easy match on his way to the division finals. He blew out Zidane, via SFF or otherwise, and then blew out Tommy Vercetti. Now neither of these characters are all that strong, but still, he blew them out. Maybe after this match, Ceej will finally think to give Crono a one seed, because at the rate CT has been declining, given Magus’ and Frog’s horrible performances, it won’t be too long before Crono isn’t a contest powerhouse, but simply a midcarder, like so many others.

My Bracket: Crono
My Vote: Master Chief
My Prediction: Crono with 66.65%



Tnote’s Analysis

Crono is like a fine wine: getting better with age. Two years ago, MC got doubled by Aeris, who I would expect to not be able to defeat Crono in this contest setting. Since then, MC has had Halo blow up, and the release of the critically acclaimed, and super mega-ly sold, Halo 2. Crono's wineness will counteract Chief's blow'd-upness, and cancel out to result in a doubling for Crono.

Pick: Crono with 66.67%



Vlado’s Analysis


Master Chief needed an amazing comeback to beat Donkey Kong. Anyone who thinks he has any chance whatsoever aganst Crono is either not really up to date with contests or just overly optimistic. The only question here is by how much the Chief will get owned. Even if we assume that Crono has taken a fall since last year, like Magus and Frog, he'd have to have taken an enormous, impossible fall to lose here. And his breaking 70% on Vercetti proved that that's not the case. In short, Master Chief got as far as he could.
Bracket makers were lucky that he was put in this division, where he couldn't have been overestimated by us, we knew that even with a potential Halo 2 increase he'd lose to Crono. And it turned out that there was no increase at all.

As for Crono, this is finally a match against a respectable opponent for him. However, his win still won't prove all that much. It seems that we'll have to wait until his match against Tifa/Sonic/Megaman to see how strong he really is... Though I think that Vincent could eliminate him before he even makes it there.
Well... I guess it depends on how strong Vincent really is and whether he'd be able to SFF Crono. With Mario's immense strength my feeling that Crono once again won't get what he has deserved for so long is getting stronger and stronger...

Predicted percentage: Crono with 65.38%.

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)
From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:13:01 PM | Message Detail
66.66, 66.67, 66.68...

Must suck for you three.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:13:03 PM | Message Detail
And Ulti has been boxed in!!!

If it hits 66.66%, I will eat my copy of Chrono Trigger.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 69/76 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:14:02 PM | Message Detail
Err, 66.65 instead of 66.68. Still funny.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:14:23 PM | Message Detail
And by hits, I mean ends.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 69/76 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:43:48 PM | Message Detail
Crono will destroy Master Chief with 70%+ of the votes...you guys really went low with the percentage this time.

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From: Vlado | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:48:02 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief will be weaker than Vercetti?
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:48:47 PM | Message Detail
Crono won't break 70%, but those 63% aren't settling in with me.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:50:34 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief will be weaker than Vercetti?

He did about as well on Donkey Kong, for what it's worth.
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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:52:14 PM | Message Detail
Hey, even I was surprised when I saw that 63% there. Guess I should have reviewed it before sending it in...
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From: Tidus56789 | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:55:18 PM | Message Detail
Who knows, Master Chief may be able to break 40% if all the Halo fans vote for him.
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SC2k5 Stats: 53/70
Crono, Megaman, Solid Snake, Samus... Final's Prediction: Crono versus Samus
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/8/2005 11:24:30 PM | Message Detail
That's about the coolest accident I've ever seen.

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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 9/9/2005 1:10:33 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief 33.56% 13443
Crono 66.44% 26613
TOTAL VOTES 40056

Wherever it ends, one of you three will get it (well, not Ulti =P). It all depends on if Crono can rally a strong night-vote to jump over the 66.68 mark while fighting the decreasing percentages due to equal votes.
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From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/9/2005 1:16:44 PM | Message Detail
Well done Vlado for your prediction of Kirby-Bowser!
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From: Vlado | Posted: 9/9/2005 1:18:14 PM | Message Detail
Thanks. I just knew that the SFF wouldn't swing dramatically in either direction.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/9/2005 4:35:01 PM | Message Detail
Kirby.......................47.88% 39857
Bowser....................52.12% 43392
TOTAL VOTES......................83249

38.18% of the brackets called this match correctly.

Kirby sure did impress! Some thought SFF was going to be ugly, and others thought Bowser was just much stronger. Turns out the two are very close to each other. Bowser might have won, but it was by a narrow margin. And no matter how bad it looks, 38% is good for a Division with Kirby, Tidus and Ryu. What isn't good though, are those vote-totals.

Today, Crono is performing decently on Master Chief. Chief is eating up the day vote like mad though, so it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

CLOSEST PREDICTIONS

Tnote - 10
Soul - 9
Vlado - 8
Inviso - 6
Outback - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1

Vlado had the lowest Bowser pick, so he gets the point.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
MC vs. Crono - Bracket: Crono - Vote: MC (72/80)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/9/2005 4:36:36 PM | Message Detail
Looks like this pick is coming down between Soul and outback.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: shadow8021 | Posted: 9/9/2005 10:31:44 PM | Message Detail
Bring on the meat!
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SC2K5 Score: 73/80
Today's Pick: Crono
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/9/2005 10:40:03 PM | Message Detail
Devil Division Round 3 - Match 54 – (5)Vincent Valentine vs. (2)Squall Leonhart
Too many emo jokes to choose from here.

Vincent
Round 1 – vs. Kerrigan (Vincent: 79.00% - Kerrigan: 21.00%)
Round 2 – vs. Dante (Vincent: 54.00% - Dante: 46.00%)

Vincent made the Devil cry by beating him. He didn’t look to god-like though.

Squall
Round 1 – vs. Geno (Squall: 74.84% - Geno: 25.16%)
Round 2 – vs. Knuckles (Squall: 53.80% - Knuckles: 46.20%)

After the miraculous upset in Round 1, Knuckles falls to Squall, but puts up a fight.

Vincent: Yo…

Squall: Sup…?

Vincent: Nothin, man.

Squall: Nothing at all…


Well, this sure is an interesting match. Both characters have put up equal performances so far, making this match hard as diamond to call. Both destroyed their Round 1 opponents, but Vincent looked better doing it. People thought Kerrigan was going to be semi-strong, but instead, she turned out to be at the lowest rung of the ladder. Squall then came short of tripling Geno, which isn’t bad, I guess.

Vincent: Life sucks…

Squall: …whatever.

Vincent: …whatever.


When Round 2 came along, reality came back in with a hop, skip AND a jump. Dante put up a fight against Vincent, and ended with with 46% of the vote on the guy who many were calling a new elite, along with Tifa. This match brought him back down to Earth, and hard too. Squall had to face Knuckles, who had just gotten off a hot upset with Magus. Knuckles did good, and managed to pull up 46.2% of the vote on Squall. So both Vincent and Squall got similar results on their Round 2 opponents, but where does it go from there?

Vincent: I listen to goth music all day. It calms my burning hatred for the world.

Squall: …I don’t care.

Vincent: …whatever.


Who would you pick in a Dante vs. Knuckles match? It would be tough, but I think Dante is stronger than Knuckles. DMC3 and being a 1-seed has helped out Dante bring in the votes. Knuckles, while pretty decent himself, would come short of Dante. Now, I would have also picked Squall over Dante, if it should happen. That one would also be pretty close, so it all depends on if you think Squall is just that much stronger than Dante.

Vincent: Love is for losers…

Squall: Women are lame. Give me a good man any day.

Vincent: ……………………….whatever.


This match should be good, and have an awesome match pic. I’m going to say Vincent will pull out the narrow win. A lot of factors are going into this match though. Is Dante stronger than Knuckles and/or Squall? Will SFF play a role in this match? If it does, will it go to FF7 or FF8, Vincent or Squall? Only time will tell…

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Magus will win. (Silly bracket)

Moltar’s Prediction is: Vincent: 51% - Squall: 49%



Ulti’s Analysis

Dante 46% 45893
Vincent 54% 53882
99775

Knuckles 46.2% 45780
Squall 53.8% 53310
99090

Two almost identical polls that happened in the last round. In fact, it's scary how close those polls are. The catch for Squall is that for him to be stronger than Vincent according to those two polls, Knuckles would have to be stronger than Dante. Knuckles has had no real reason to increase over the past year, while Dante has had Devil May Cry 3 and a 1 seed. For Squall to win, he may have to rely on the old hero:villain ratio theory.

Of course, this is a match between FF7 and FF8. If Squall manages any SFF at all in this match, it would defy the laws of physics as we know it. Not to say that Squall doesn't have a chance or that the match won't be close, but I don't think he has a good chance of actually winning. I believe that Dante is clearly > Knuckles, and that's what I'm looking at in deciding who wins this match.

Prediction: Vincent with 52.46%
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/9/2005 10:41:15 PM | Message Detail
Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Vincent defeated Dante: 54% - 46%

Squall defeated Knuckles: 53.80% - 46.20%


The first entertaining match of the third round (and probably the only one that's supposed to be close) ends up in the crazy Devil Division. With upsets left and right, two of the strongest from this stacked division go toe-to-toe in what should be an amazing match.

Well, let's start this off with the 2 seed. Squall Leonhart started this year off with a somewhat "meh-ish" performance against Geno. But to tell you the truth, no one gave a damn about this match. We were all talking about the result that never should have happened in the match before. You know, how Knuckles COMPLETELY KILLED MAGUS!

Heh, sorry, felt I was lacking in the Magus teasing. Anyways, Squall became the favorite against Knuckles, but after Knux's miracle win against Magus, no one knew how he would perform. He managed to get 46.2% against Squall, which proves that Squall was underrated by most of Board 8. But, with those numbers against Knux, can he defeat Vincent?

Vincent, like Tifa, had a huge wakeup call in round 2. Both characters got huge round 1 blow-outs, but they were surprised by the strength of their second round opponents. Tifa struggled with Luigi, while Dante gave Vincent one hell of a scary match. Just goes to show that you shouldn't base contest strength by defeating fodder. With that said, he still got 54% on a buffed up Dante, so he's not weak.

Now then, since both characters got around 54% on their opponents, it all comes down to who is stronger between Knuckles and Dante. Past stats indicate that Dante is barely stronger then Knuckles. Of course, there is reason to believe that both characters increased from the last contest. Suddenly, that .2% more on Squall becomes somewhat more important. Assuming that Knuckles and Dante are even (which they very well could be), Vincent would barely defeat Squall. But, considering everything, this match looks to be a dead even, 50/50, could-go-anyway type of match.

Now, we have to decide who the casuals would choose in this situation. Squall, the main character from FF8, or Vincent, a side character from FF7. We know that FF7 is the more popular game on this site, but can a side character defeat the main hero from the other game? This match could tell us a few things.

1. If Vincent gets a blow-out win: It means that Square SFF is present, and it favors FF7.

2. If Vincent wins barely: It means that he's slightly more popular (OMG REALLY?!)

3. If Squall wins barely: It means that only the top 2 from FF7 (Cloud/Sephiroth) can defeat the near elite group. It also wouldn't look good for Tifa against Sonic

4. If Squall gets a blow-out win: It means that Squall is a powerhouse in this contest.

Me, I'm hoping Squall wins with 55% to make Knuckles look even better. But that's my bias coming into play here. But, like every match like this, I tend to never doubt the FF7 character, especially in what could be a 50/50 match, so I'm predicting Vincent wins. Let's hope I'm wrong.

My prediction: Vincent wins with 50.74% of the vote. My favorite match coming up next



Outback’s Analysis

Vincent impressed against Kerrigan, and failed to impress against Dante. Squall is impossible to place so far. So where is this match going? What I think has happened is that the Kingdom Hearts factor of 2003 is wearing off. We couldn't see this with Squall last year because he was placed in an SFF match, but I still believe it is true. Vincent, while not being the Elite that we thought after his thrashing of Kerrigan, is certainly an upper-tier character in these contests and will take out Mr. Whatever.

Vincent with 53.00%
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/9/2005 10:41:43 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

In my opinion, this division was the strongest overall. The four characters that made it past round 1, and one of the characters that lost in a close match, were all extremely powerful. If only Ceej had put some of these characters in other divisions, we might not have crappy weak matches like Master Chief/Donkey Kong. Anyway, Vincent nailed a blowout against a Starcraft character that was definitely overrated, and then went on to beat Dante in a close match. Squall is the contest veteran, who blew out Geno by not quite as much as Vincent did to Kerrigan, then beat Knuckles in a closer match than Vincent’s against Dante, after Knuckles upset Magus in round 1. Anyway, Vincent is from FFVII and Squall is from FFVIII. FFVII is more popular than FFVIII, and even though Vincent is optional, Squall isn’t exactly a loved character. There’ll be SFF in this match, but Squall will survive. He won’t win, but he won’t get killed.

My Bracket: Magus Zeal
My Vote: Vincent Valentine
My Prediction: Vincent Valentine with 55.89%



Tnote’s Analysis

Vincent will get SFFed, because the optional sidequest sidekick will not be syphoning votes from the lead protagonist anytime soon. Unless your name is Tidus. And that, folks, is all I have to say about that.

Pick: Squall with 54.83%



Leonhart’s Analysis


Ah, this is the moment I've been waiting for, Squall's chance to win a division and reach the Elite Eight. It definitely won't be easy though. Standing in his way is a fan favorite from Final Fantasy VIII's predecessor, Vincent Valentine. This has been touted as the only Sweet Sixteen match worth watching (of course, this was before Kirby shocked everyone by getting nearly 48% on Bowser, but I digress), and I hope it lives up to its billing.

In Vincent's defense, he certainly has a solid case in his favor to be able to win this match. The disappointing 54/46 victory over Dante gave Squall high hopes for being able to take the division if he could impress against Knuckles. He didn't. The two competitors put up nearly identical performances, so I guess it really boils down to whether Dante or Knuckles is stronger directly. The Devil May Cry star has had the advantage in recent years in the stats by a slim margin, but with his major upset victory over Magus in hand, it's possible that Knuckles might be a little stronger this year. Dante has reason to have gone up this year as well, but I certainly don't think he would defeat Knux by more than Squall did. This indicates that this match SHOULD be close as long as there's no SFF, and I don't think there will be. However, it's been difficult to get a reading on Squall for the past couple of years. He hasn't really quite lived up to expectations in his recent matches, but here's hoping we've underestimated his opponents. With Kirby showing himself to be a force this year, it might be possible.

Regardless of who the victor of this match is, I can't see either of them getting more than 53% when this is all said and done. The main thing this contest has lacked thus far is a true wire-to-wire nail biter, and I think this match can deliver. Squall should take the initial lead at the beginning of the poll, and Vincent should make his charge throughout the day. I think either character will be very hard pressed to have this match put away by nightfall. Rest assured, I'll be rooting for Squall through and through.

My prediction: Squall Leonhart with 52.04%
From: Vlado | Posted: 9/10/2005 12:02:01 AM | Message Detail
Here's my analysis. It's slightly late, as I couldn't be online for a while, but I hadn't looked at the other predictions before making mine. It's up to Moltar whether to give me the point if I happen to guess right.



Vincent Valentine vs. Squall Leonhart

This match could be one of the worst in the contest for me... But I hope it won't be. Vincent should win this. I know it's a SFF match and it could go either way, but he MUST win. For all that is good in this world. Vincent is a very well liked, despite optional, character in Final Fantasy VII - the most beloved game in the world, or at least, on GameFAQs. Squall is the main character of FFVIII - the hated one, the game that's most despised in the whole series. However, there are loyal FF fans that would still vote for him against outsiders... Such as Knuckles. They, however, should support Vincent here.

I don't even know how Squall made it past Knuckles. It was a major travesty if I've ever seen one, especially after Knuckles beat Magus, who I'm still sure would beat Squall. Sure, Squall's also in Kingdom Hearts, but we saw how Sora and Riku did. It can't possibly be that. Let's hope Squall goes down here, he went far enough. Vincent should be able to SFF him perfectly well. Even without the SFF, he should still win. I'm sure that, with the bracket votes and DMC3, Dante was well stronger than Knuckles. And Vincent did better on him than Squall did on Knuckles. So that's just another argument in Vincent's favour. He should not only win here, but also give a very hard time to Crono in the Elite Eight... Possibly even win that match. And even the whole tournament.

Predicted percentage: Vincent Valentine with 54.67%.
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/10/2005 12:12:15 AM | Message Detail
Only Tnote and Leonhart got it right. :P

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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 9/10/2005 12:46:58 AM | Message Detail
*looks at new picture*

Vincent is screwed. Squall's sword > Vincent's gun.

Squall with 52.67%.

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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/10/2005 9:01:05 AM | Message Detail
I hope the match stays like this.
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From: smasherx | Posted: 9/10/2005 11:12:34 AM | Message Detail
Tagit!
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/10/2005 1:22:12 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief.................38.71% 38028
Crono...........................61.29% 60203
TOTAL VOTES..........................98231

38.42% of the brackets called this match correctly.

Crono was near 67% when I woke up. Chief then dominated the day vote, as usual, and finished up with an impressive near 39% performance on Crono. Not good for the Red-Headed Wonder. Also, an interesting thing to note, Chief had 38.1% of the brackets winning this division, just .32 less that Crono.

Today, we finally have that head-to-head match everyone wanted. It was going 50-50 earlier, with the lead changing nearly every update. Now it seems Vincent has a hold of things...for now at least.

CLOSEST PREDICTIONS

Tnote - 10
Soul - 9
Vlado - 8
Outback - 7
Inviso - 6
Ulti - 6
Moltar - 4
MasterMage - 1

Outback had the lowest Crono pick, so the point is his.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Vincent vs. Squall- Bracket: Magus - Vote: Vincent (76/84)
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